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#76696 09/11/2001 8:48 AM
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Two planes have crashed into the World Trade Center in NYC. At this point it is believed to be an act of terrorism.

NYC is at this point locked down. All of the bridges and tunnels are closed. All of the airports are closed. No trains running either.

This is just sickening. All I see is smoke covering all of downtown Manhattan.

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third plane have crashed into the Pentagon.
this is a terrorism act
oh my god
the WTC is starting to collapse frown

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Tacks... stay safe please... consider going home if you can. It's bad... many buildings in Washington DC have been evacuated, the Sears tower in Chicago is being evacuated too...


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even the german tv stations keep on broadcasting non-stop from the US !
both of the twin towers are collapsed, also the pentagon.
I've heard they detected a kidnapped airplane and shot it down :-(

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so sad.. please get somewhere safe

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They just announced a plane has crashed in Summerset county, here in Pa. This is so unreal. I have no words, please be safe..


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do you know how is responsible for all this ?
I guess Osama bin Laden, thats what they guess in germany. I hope there will be no more attentat ! frown

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The shooting down of a plane is just a rumor at the moment (as is a car bomb at the white house).

I woke up watching the towers collapse.

There are very few things in my life that have ever made me so ... disturbed. Can't stop shaking...


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Today is a day that will live in infamy. Words can't describe the sorrow and heartache shed on this horrible day. Please take a moment to think of those who lost their lives today.

Dear God, this is horrible...

I'm in the military, and I assure you, this will not go unpunished....preperations are under way as we speak...

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The true importance of things become more real in a situation like this... your family, your loved ones, life, liberty, and safety. Those who believe in prayer, please pray for all the families victimized here... they are innocent victims of hatred. It appears as many as 20,000 people were in the towers at the time of the attack. frown


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Our TV stations here in Sweden are reporting live from USA as well. TV4 was replaced by CNN for a while. This is so horrible frown frown frown

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...so many lives, all snuffed out in an instant. Damnit, I was *at* the pentagon this time last week. frown

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I know this is horrendously selfish of me to think this way in a time like this, but that quote doesn't make me feel very good, Borg. That, and all the news reporters calling this "an act of war." I'm the prime age to be drafted, and I'm sorry, but I *really* don't want to go to war.

On a more selfless note, I almost feel worse for the 200+ people in the planes. Even though the casualties in the towers proper is exponentially higher, they were lucky, because they didn't see it coming. The passengers on the plane were forced to sit there and watch while the towers got bigger and bigger...

Why do things like this have to happen?

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Im in michigan. I can't belive what is happening. I know of two people that have been called into duty. My boss might be next because he is with the airforce. I am also very shocked at this am very concerned about what is going to happen. I also have heard that there are about 20 planes that are still in the air (commercial) Only are in contact.

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As if the bombing weren't enough, I came home from my last class to see footage of Palestinians out in the streets cheering and celebrating. Even little kids, who more than likely didn't really even know what was going on. What does it say about humanity when people are having the time of their life after thousands of others were extinguished in seconds...

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This is so very sad. My prayers go those who lost their lives and to those who lost loved ones in this tragity. frown

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Agreed. There are several sick, ****ed up Eastern nations out there, partying in the streets right now.

The media is swingling towards blaming Bin Laden... I wouldn't be surprised if there's a 'mysterious' abduction in Afganhistan some time soon...

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I think that was just a small group of people out in a side street.
More cynical people have even suggested to me that perhaps the media paid those people to act it up for the cameras.

I'm sure if this was the scenes all across Israel/Palestine, then they wouldn't simply be showing the one thing over and over.

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Can anyone say 9-11??

Well, that's the date, a bit ironic, eh?

I remember riding to school this morning then hearing about the first crash and I was thinking what a horrific accident. But when I heard about the second crash.. I had no idea what to think.

People these days.. I can't believe it! If I were on one of those planes, I would have gotten my ass out of my seat and went and tried to take those bastards out... I mean how many people, at least 50 on each plane could have taken out the terroists. But I would be so horrified, I wouldn't know what to think...

Could you imagine jumping out of 110 story building?? Or maybe watching yourself flying into the trade center.. I have read some much on this.. There are people who watched the plane in headed toward Camp David crash.

But how hard of a desicion would it be to have the Air Force destroy a commerical airliner...

God bless all the families who have lost their loved ones..

Does anyone believe this is worse then Pearl Harbor?

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I watched all of this today at school in all my classes. I watched both towers collapse on live tv. I feel depressed.

My condolences toward the families of those who lost and the children who lost parents. frown

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Same here. They had this one feed of a guy jumping out of the building... So so sad.. frown

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This is bigger than Pearl Harbor, you can bet who ever is responsible will be dealt with. Most likely Palestinian terrorists.

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President George W. Bush responds to the terrorist attacks, saying that The United States "will hunt down and punish those responsible for this."

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Am I the only one who isn't very disturbed about this? I mean sure, it's the most "horrific terrorist attack" in the nation's history, but I really don't feel any which way towards it.

"No matter how bad things can get, they can always get worse."

We can only hope it doesn't.

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I believe the number was 50,000 also.

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Trav, you sure about that? How are you not devasted.. That has just changed the way all of America looks at this.. In a matter of seconds.. The whole damn world has seen this.. And many people have died and your not disturbed. This could start wars and all. What are we to do just keep walking around. I mean what if you were in the building and got out. Would you stil say your didn't care? I am sorry if I sound pissed. But this has been one of the most horrific days. I was hoping Iwould never see somehting like this.

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Sorry, if you think I'm selfish, conceited, (insert word here). But I can't help it that I don't feel anything, that's just the way I am. I don't get sad, mad, happy, whatever, mainly because it's not going to help the situation at hand.

Anyways, the fact of it is, I wasn't in the building, never WOULD be in the building. So, it would be kinda pointless to wonder "what if".


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This is really horrible, another building has just collapsed(7th building of the WTC)

Can´t imagine the atmosphere over there, all the country must be on shock.

I don´t think this will lead to WWIII, all the countries have given support to USA. This is the act of some fanatic,religious group.

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No one will ever knwo the real truth behind this basically because we can't talk to the people who hijacked and killed people..

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Unbelievable.

It was more than likely bin Laden and his goons. He said three weeks ago he was planning something 'big'.

All I can say, is that Afghanistan is in for a royal beating. If we're smart, we'll take the whole place over, along with other countries like them. If the body has cancer, you cut it out.

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Well I just got up this morning and it was ALL over Australian TV. I give my simphathy to America and I hope the death toll wont be 50,000 like the estimated at this point.

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Oh yeah, several students from our school, said they received e-mails yesterday(?), from Afghansitianians, saying that we(USA) should become alert soon.

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damn you are definitely american, don't you learn from things ? why do you think all this happened ?
those who did this want to show america and their arrogant foreign policy that they won't accept this anymore. And as you see they are too dangerous and too serious as you could overlook them.

I hope America has learned from things and will be smarter than everybody thinks they are.

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What America stands for cannot be compared to what the country's around the world that have to deepest hatred for us stand for. We involve oursleves in the Middle East, because we believe everyone has the right to life, and the people there are threatening to take that right from people. Why does bin Laden hate us? Hell if I know, more than likely hates us 'butting into their buisness'. The world would be a better place for everyone if governments like the Taliban didn't exist. They've given safe refuge to bin Laden and his followers. They deserve to be taken out.

Believe it or not, America would be happy to live in a world of peace, and that's why we do what we do. Maybe we are blind to the fact that World Peace will more than likely never happen, but the blinding is intentional.

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Very sad, can you imagine what those people were thinking at that moment.

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I couldn't even imagine...

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Muc, You're absolutly right.
This operation needs highly qualified technicians. Think about it: How can a plane crash into one of the world's most advanced defence system?
Just to make it clear: Islam does not allow actions like this because it does not allow killing innocent people.

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I don't even wan't to try to imagine what those people thought... It scares the hell out of me.

My mother told me, the one which crashed in Pensylvania had a CNN reporter on board, she was hidden in the bathroom, and called her husband. And she did some coverage of whats going on.

I really hope she had the chance to say "goodbye" to her husband... and her 2 kids...

This really makes me sad, call me weak but I even feel a tear coming down. And I'm not even American.

This is only one of those victems who died, amongst many many many others.


Then the other story, those horrible people in Afghanistan, enjoying themselves and dancing on the streets as they heard the news about America! That's really pathetic...

When I see this **** , I'm thinking of bombing them all to dead, since they like that very much.

Also it's proven that at least 75% off all the terrorists bombers/hijackers/etc are from Afghanistan or have been training there!!!

Now I say on my turn, looking back at the past, just bombing a few targets here and there doesn't make one difference. You can only expect it coming back at you, someday...

Why not bomb whole Afghanistan?
Just wipe everything out there, so it won't have the power or people to retaliate back! If you only bomb 2 or 3 things, they will come back at you! And then again more people get hurt or killed, but when you just wipe out the place, you will be rest assured no new attacks will take place anytime near in the future.


I probably made some people angry with my opinion, but that's how I see it. You can only cure cancer, by cutting it out from the root & surroundings.

I also wanted to wish all the people who lost families / friends / relatives / loved ones, all the best in the world and may their wounds be healed in time and peace return to their minds.

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Well.. here comes the ignorance and racism.

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I agree with Mike, except for one thing. We aren't sure who did it... Even tho those people were dancing doesn't give us the right to destroy em.. sure I would.. but they are just happy to see America screwed up

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Tech-Ni-Kal, They've got a reason, their country is suffring from racism because of the continuos U.S Support to Israel. They're facing death everyday because of that. You can hear them say: "See America, The God is the one who decides"

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Just to clear up the muddy terms here, anyone in the world who thinks "50,000 Americans dead" should be shot. Only those who thinks "50,000 people dead" is a human being. How can the Egyptians and Palistins "partying in the streets" celebrating the loss of any human life? For that, they don't deserve their own. mad

"America got what it deserves for their foreign policy?" I'm hardly a fan of hypocratic America on many issues, but WHEN was the last time ANY other country had this many people wiped out in the blink of an eye?!

A rebel Afghanistan faction are claiming responsibility, and if true, means Bin Laden wasn't involved. Not that the Afghan government would _ever_ admit it, even if he was... they know practically the rest of the planet would be united against them.

The death makes me sad... the reason make me mad... the reactions make me sick.

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I didn't mean to say they didn't. They have a big reason.. I mean I believe we should kick their ****ing asses to the gorund.. Because how is that a party to them?? I don't get it.. I take back what I said earlier. I didn't understand what I was saying.. :-

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What stupid assholes. I am sure they know the whole world is practically against them now. So, they would NEVER admit to it. Hopefully, other countries will help us find the guys. And we should deifnately kill those Afghanistans.. You don't praise death.. especially of 50,000 innocent people.

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Just a reminder to you guys to please watch your language. We're all understandably upset right now, but swearing isn't going to help anything.

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Of course, I don't mean that they are doing the right thing. But they feel that everybody in the U.S is involved in their tragedy because a large percentage of the taxes you're paying is given to Israel to kill them and/or occupy their territories.

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This is the funniest thing I heard today..

Personally, I'd like to see three towers built in their place, with the middle one much taller than the other two. That way, it would look like a giant middle finger, directed straight at the people who did this.

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LOL, that'd be great.

I haven't heard of anyone taking responsibility for this, and I've been watching the news all day.

It was more than likely bin Laden, since he claimed something 'big' was going to happen. If that turns out true, destroying Afghanistan as a whole would be a baaaad thing to do. We would destry the Taliban, and make it known, that any country harboring terrorists will get the same treatment.

The is a Rebel group in Afghanistan, I forget their name, that are against the Taliban, and against what has happened. They were the ones respnsible for the bombings in Afghanistan that occurred a little while ago.

I wonder if these people didn't think we would strike back...

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Not only completely wipe out Afghanistan, but also Syria, Pakistan, Iraq & Iran. Total and complete destruction and loss of all life.

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To me, it seems like all of us americans want is to get revenge for this. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe we should let this go, but if we are going to let revenge drive us to try to kill them, we have sunk down to their level.


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...an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth...

Personally I am a fan of vengence in general, but what's most important here is making sure this terrorist group never harm another person...

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What a sad, miserable specimen you are.


I think what most of you are not (intentionally?) realising is that many people in the middle east are muslim, yes, but also uneducated.

Who was it that said something to the likes of 'the common people view religion as true, the wise view it as false, and the rulers view it as useful'.

They are being taken advantage of by people like Bin Laden for political purposes, and they don't know any better, yet who will people go after?
Who will people blame?

Anyone that is an arab.

I have a friend in Detroit that says arab people (yes, arabs are human, they are people too - did you not know that?) are getting beaten to death in the streets, some are getting shot at their own doors, simply for the reason they are Arab.

America.. land of the free.. tolerant of all races.. oh sorry.. was that only a rumour?

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Hear hear.

Ladies and gentlemen, let's try and keep this civil.

If that is beyond your abilities, stay out of this topic.

Provocation -> Removal of posting privs.

Comprende?

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People these days.. I can't believe it! You're actually trying to pin the blame on the passengers of the planes?

Think about it logically for a second, I doubt the Hi-jackers went around the plane announcing to the passengers that they'd be used to tear down the WTC towers.

The passengers would have just been told it was a run of the mill hi-jacking and that they'd be released once their demands were met.

I very much doubt that under those circumstances you would have taken those bastards out ;
I'd say it's unlikely you would have done anything more elaborate than piss in your pants.

If I was a hostage, and told that we'd be released once the demands were met, I'd just sit my ass down in the hopes I wouldn't get anybody killed by being an impulsive ass, and hell, I'd definately be scared.

Think about it; even if the passengers were told they were going to crash into a really huge rock, they would have rushed the terrorists. If they were going to die ANYWAY they would have done something about it.

So you can imagine that they DEFINATELY would have rushed the terrorists if they were told they would be used to take out the WTC towers. Far better to die a hero than a coward. If you're going to die anyway, that kind of sombre thought would make sense to you.

So if the terrorists were intelligent enough to orchestrate this kind of horrendous attack, they certainly would have enough common sense to tell the passengers the "usual" hi-jacking story.

**Sigh**


I imagine the passengers didn't click onto what was happening until they saw the WTC buildings out of their cabin windows....

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Even if we get rid of this one, there will always be others. Although, unfortunately, this group seemed to do more than any other terrorist group has...

Also all these reporters, experts keep saying that this is "evil". I strongly disagree with that. I believe their is no good or evil. What separates us, is our different perspectives, not good or evil, but who's to say which perspective is right? No one on this earth is such a high power to make that judgement.

I hope you don't think I'm sticking up for them when I say that, I just find it funny how experts would use such a "incorrect" word for all of this.


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Has anyone done a search for "World Trade Center" on eBay? It's sad what people will do for money.

Especially this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1636563985

( I commend eBay for removing auctions such as this one ) (it was for a charred piece of paper, supposedly from the World Trade Center, and someone had actually bid on it! frown )

My wife said she saw on the news people grabbing everything they could out of souvenir shops (postcards of the World Trade Center). I now see why, to sell them for over inflated prices on eBay. Why on earth would anyone pay $200 for a postcard?

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[ F.A.Q. ] including "how did they know they were hijacked?" that I didn't know about. shocked

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I mentioned those countries based on the fact that they harbor and support known terrorists. Not because they were arab, or any other race. Race or Religion had nothing to do with it at all. I apologize if it seemed that way.

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richardk, Do you call groups like Jihad and Hamas terrorits? I don't think so. They're fighting for the FREEDOM of their country.

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I was referring to the cold way in which you called for the complete eradication of all life from the countires you mentioned.
Fathers, mothers, children and all.

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I can't believe those afghan people are celebrating this. It doesn't matter if you hate America. So many innocent people died thats nothing to celebrate. I just don't hope we get a WW3.

Anyway, I saw this on another forum and Thought I'd post it here.

The flights that were Highjacked were from United and AA, they were numbered as follows:

11, 93, 175, and 77

11 = Today's Date
9+3 = 12 = Wednesday
1+7+5 = 13 = Thursday
7+7 = 14 = Friday

Isn't that a coincodence? Might mean something.

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Nobody does really know if it's over, maybe the terrorists will go on, maybe in America, maybe anywhere other in the world.
In Germany we have security level 1, so everywhere is more police than I have ever seen before, especially in front of the american institutions.
We have the largest american military base in europe, everything over there is now isolated and highly secured, nobody is allowed to go in or out.
Right now there is a worship in german capital Berlin where all german politicians have joined and thousands of people stand on the street in front of the cathedral or are watching the worship on TV.

I give you my word that Germany will be completely solidary with our american friends, and we gonna find those fiends together, but we can't react in a irresponsible manner, we have to be smarter than them and prevent a war.

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I think the terriosts want to start a war, They want the world to suffer in another war and now if thats true they are getting what they want. Bush has declaired war.

Anyway, muc the same thing has happened here. They have stepped up security.

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It is a pity to see that even the President of the United States hasn't learned from the past.

remeber those things like "Massive Retaliation" (Eisenhower) ?
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I don't belive that bush declaried war. Who would he do it on?

Here are more things to consider. Most of you are saying that we will not know who did it. I think that is totally false.

The FBI had a name stand out in the passenger list for obvious reasons. They have attained a warrent to his residence and have been searching it. They also stoped a rented van that was leaving an airport. In the mist of all these searchings they have found Afganistan pilot training manuals and a gas milage convertor. And I am sure some other things which they will not release to the public due to "National Security"

What still amazes the hell out of me is the fact that 3-5 guys with plastic knives can not be stopped buy a planeful of 60-90 people.

I might act differently if I were in the situation myself but that just shocks me. Perhaps thats what happened when the 4th plane crashed.

Also that plane was not belived to be headed to Camp David it was belived to be headed towards Washington.

Hoepfully no reckless descisions are made today.

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Just a thought smile

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The president hasn't actually declared war yet, he called it an "act of war", declaration of war comes when there's a likely target. He did say again that a country who harbors those who did this are targets as well.


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The Notradamus stuff just got trashed...

http://fury.com/article/925.php

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Not the same situation, granted, but you asked.

What scares me most is how many severely anti-American groups out there might be wanting to take their turn at this kind of attention, now.

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Possibly... I do think they'll change their mind in the near future tho. Retaliation promises to be quick, strong, and massive...


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The whole thing makes me sick.

Can't we as the people of the United States of America concentrate our energy on supporting the direct victims of this tragedy?

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I think we are, aren't we?


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I don't think the terrorists are like in the TV with all these hints... They only do it to kill people, not to 'help us solve the mystery'...

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Deadeyedave,

No, I didn't mean it like that.. It weas kinda mixed up with the paragraph. I was talking bout the hi-jackers trying to kil all those people. I mean I could definately understand how no one wold do anything. I weas just saying I would try to stop them.

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Also Deadeyedave,

No matter if they said we would get away "if" demands are met. Not such a striking word. I would still go after them. There were reports tat the pilots weren't killed so if they took the plane over they could get the pilots to land it. I mean no mattter what you would want to stop terrisiots. Especially when they say "if" demands are met, with small knives.

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Doubt it. I think they chose the planes that left at basiically they same time and were trans-continental because they carry the most fuel of any plane when flying somewherre in the U.S....

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We are but in the same token the terrorist who orchestrated this attack must be stopped as well.

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Not all of them had small knives. They had shaving kits with and home made knives with plastic handles and razors as well as box-cutters.

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Hehehe this is what the buildings should look like when/if they rebuild them.

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Nice, RANCH4X4!!! The Statue of Liberty is our beacon of freedom, and the World Trade Center II is our beacon of "Screw you, stupid terrorists!"

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LOL!!!

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I also think we should have guns at the top to blow the people who try to do it again.. smile

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we arent rebuilding it over the other one, we are moving it farther down in manhattan the site will be a memorial. shocked

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LK, Why? Don't they have the right to defend their country? No one and I say no one from these groups has attempted to attack civilians.

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Seriously? Oh... Well still have three buildings with the middle one much bigger.

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Ben Ladin is going to pay. You can not judge on the whole religion just because a mad man had done this trajedy.

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When's the last time something has happened like this to other countries?? Try for the last 50 plus years in Palestine. By the jews! Who was suppling weapons to Israel? America. America was contributing to over 1,000,000 deaths of Palestinians in the past 25 plus years, not to mention the many more innocent people in the 25 to plus years before that.

Does America celebrate the death of Palestinians, they sure do. Not as blantantly as the Palestinians and Muslims did, but nonetheless they do, everyday.

Now that America experiences a horrid day of tragedy, the ones who got picked on by America and slaughter for 50 years. Of Millions of Millions of innocent palestinians. It is sad in any country to see what happened yesterday. It makes my heart bleed.


But please don't be ignorant, biased Americans who go by what the American media feeds you. Be knowledged before you use 'Palestinians' as scapegoats or as guilty parties..


Thank you.

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You're kidding right?

Not once in my life have I celebrated the death of a Palestinian. Not once has my family, or anyone I know celebrated the death of a palestinian. No one is claiming they did it. We know they didn't do it. What hurts us is that they are celebrating the death of thousands of humans. Notice I said humans, not Americans. It's their ignorance that we hate.

bin Laden will pay for his actions, greatly.

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Bin Laden lives for Terrorisim. It's funny how Americans think he will be destroyed. I in no way condone what happened yesterday whoever did it.

But don't overlook local milita groups, don't forget what happened in Oklahoma City.

Or the Japanese (the recent accidental jet bombing)

or many other groups.

Bin Laden is very very intelligent when it comes to this type of situation. I can almost guarantee he will be unharmed for many and many of years to come. Sad to say, but true.

I am not anti-american, just giving you light from the other side of the mountain.

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I just heard that the plane that crashed in Pennsylvaniam, the people on the plane figured out what was going on and rushed the terriosts and the pilots causing the plane to fall. Well, it is going to be hectic to fly from now on. Some of the stuff that will change the way we fly. Right now no more curb side check in and such.. WOW!!!

Another thing ihead was that the hijackers told the people that if they were to get up, they had a bomb in the a briefcase and would blow it up. I only think why would the hi-jackers hi jack a plane and if anyone moves just blow it up. That would defeat the whole purpose. They also have some leads. I think we are getting along.

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Yeah that might be the reason, or it's just a coincodence somebody picked up.

Anyway didn't they figure out who some of the hijackers were? (2 of them I think, from Saudi Arabia)

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Cartoon is in a way, correct.
The USA has taken her role in the world as being a police force (whether she now likes it or not), but its biggest failing is that it has double standards in many situations.
Anyone can see the USA only goes where the money is.

So many Americans shocked.

I am shocked at the loss of lives, but not shocked at the events.

The USA has been hurting the people of Iraq for near a decade now.
Some of you may think 'It's Saddams fault'.
Sure, thats true.. then WTF don't you get rid of him?
Instead of hitting the cities (which the military uses as cover for their AA installations).

Note, a 'democratic' country in no way means that that country is fair and just.
Case in point, Israel.
The USA supplies Israel with weapons and technology, simply because they need an ally in the region, and because Israel is 'democratic'.
2 requirements.
Good job.
Other than that, Israel has free reign to destroy as many human lives as they wish - do we hear the western democracies complaining about that? No, since they are allied with America.

By all means, mourn the loss of so many human lives.. but in the same respect, make a note of what your 'oh-so-high-and-mighty, power of truth and justice' country does to the world for monetary gain.

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you people are pissing me off, in no way do americans celebrate any lives we take. The only reason our government does it is to keep peace.

Hell, if it wasn't for the US, we would have been in WWIII by now.

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No, thats right, you do not celebrate, but you don't exactly voice your concerns or anything over the actions of Uncle Sam do you?

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America, The Good Neighbor

Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:

“This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth.

Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.

When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars! into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.

I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States
dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo
Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes?

Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles.

You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon -! not once, but several times - and safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.

I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is ****ed tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those.

Stand proud, America!”


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Allen, why didn't American race to help palastain? at least 5 innocent people are killed everyday by the american-made military of Israel ( F16s, Apaches .. etc. ).

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B/c that whole country is filled with terrorism.
Theres so many homeless people in America and the US is always helping other countries. We need to put them aside and worry about our people and when we have our economy running at a good high standard then start helping other countries.

I can tell you right now, America will never help a country that supports terrorism.

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Supports terrorism? Don't you call defending a country a terrorism? Do forget that Israel is the one who invaded palastain with full support of the United States OF America.

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They have my full support in doing so, it seems that 95% of terrorists are from Afganistan or are atleast trained there. We're not going to forget about what happened Tuesday morning, this is far worse than Pearl Harbor. I'd consider Afganistan lucky if there country is not destroyed!

I'm sorry, but this is just the way I feel.

Your pals and Israel have been fighting for thousands of years, the US only supports countries thta don't invade, don't conquor.

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"At least eight people were arrested Thursday at JFK and LaGuardia airports for carrying fake documentation, including one man posing as a pilot, and for immigration issues. Four of the suspects had been at one of the airports the day of the terrorist attacks but fled when challenged about identification at the ticket counter. They are being questioned by FBI agents on the joint terrorism task force."

Quote from CNN. So So Sad...

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I'm not defending Afganistan. In fact if Taliban have done this then they need to be wiped up.

Palastain has remained arab's land for more than one thousand years. In fact, Jews NEVER stayed in one place for a long time. They might have stayed in Palastain for about 80 years and that was thousands of years ago.

Tech-Ni-Kal, Good .. the FBI are making a good progress. Hop they get those who did it soon.

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Hmm, you know what? I think we have another purpose for the seats that are used as flotation devices... You could have used them to block the knives somewhat. I mean I don't think that it would save people from getting stabbed. But it certainly can help know that you think of it... Oh well just a thought..

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More than likely the passengers in the 3 planes that crashed into buildings didn't know they were going to be used as suicide bombers or ~60 people would have easily over-powered 4-6 guys with knives. It is believed the 4th plane's passengers heard about the fate of the other 3 planes and did just that, crashing the plane in the woods, far from its intended target.


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Yeah, the FBI are pretty close to finding out who was the main person behind the terriost attacks.

Anyway, this terriost attack has been in plan for so many years. The people who hijacked the planes spent 1 year in pilot school so they knew how to fly the plane into the buliding.

They said on the news that all the planes didn't hit where they were supposed to. The two that hit the WTC were supposed to. The one that hit the Pentagon and the one that crashed in pensylvania didn't either. They suspect the Pentagon plane was supposed to hit the whitehouse and the Pensylvania plane was supposed to hit Air force 1, the persidents private jet.

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Allen, I know they didn;t know they wre going to be used as suicide bombers. But either way. They only had knives. And if they said they had a bomb they would blow up the plane which would defeat the whole purpose. I mean I could understand just to sit there and hope to land but if we turn like that and keep flying.. I wold get a bit suspicious. I am suprised tho even if they only had knives and didn't kill the pilots they didn't take em over. I am not accusing them of anything I am just saying...

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September 12, 2001
We'll go forward from this moment

BY LEONARD PITTS JR.
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It's my job to have something to say. They pay me to provide words that help make sense of that which troubles the American soul. But in this moment of airless shock when hot tears sting disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to say, the only words that seem to fit, must be addressed to the unknown author of this suffering.

You monster. You beast. You unspeakable ******* .

What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's attack on our World Trade Center, our Pentagon, us? What was it you hoped we would learn? Whatever it was, please know that you failed.

Did you want us to respect your cause? You just damned your cause.

Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our resolve.
Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us together.

Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and quarrelsome family, a family rent by racial, social, political and class division, but a family nonetheless. We're frivolous, yes, capable of expending tremendous emotional energy on pop cultural minutiae -- a singer's revealing dress, a ball team's misfortune, a cartoon mouse. We're wealthy, too, spoiled by the ready availability of trinkets and material goods, and maybe because of that, we walk through life with a certain sense of blithe entitlement. We are fundamentally decent, though -- peace-loving and compassionate. We struggle to know the right thing and to do it. And we are, the overwhelming majority of us, people of faith, believers in a just and loving God.

Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all of this makes us weak. You're mistaken. We are not weak. Indeed, we are strong in ways that cannot be measured by arsenals.

IN PAIN

Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we are in shock. We're still grappling with the unreality of the awful thing you did, still working to make ourselves understand that this isn't a special effect from some Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development from a Tom Clancy novel. Both in terms of the awful scope of their ambition and the probable final death toll, your attacks are likely to go down as the worst acts of terrorism in the history of the United States and, probably, the history of the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been bloodied before.

But there's a gulf of difference between making us bloody and making us fall. This is the lesson Japan was taught to its bitter sorrow the last time anyone hit us this hard, the last time anyone brought us such abrupt and monumental pain. When roused, we are righteous in our outrage, terrible in our force. When provoked by this level of barbarism, we will bear any suffering, pay any cost, go to any length, in the pursuit of justice.

I tell you this without fear of contradiction. I know my people, as you, I think, do not. What I know reassures me. It also causes me to tremble with dread of the future.

In the days to come, there will be recrimination and accusation, fingers pointing to determine whose failure allowed this to happen and what can be done to prevent it from happening again. There will be heightened security, misguided talk of revoking basic freedoms. We'll go forward from this moment sobered, chastened, sad. But determined, too. Unimaginably determined.

THE STEEL IN US

You see, the steel in us is not always readily apparent. That aspect of our character is seldom understood by people who don't know us well. On this day, the family's bickering is put on hold.

As Americans we will weep, as Americans we will mourn, and as Americans, we will rise in defense of all that we cherish.

So I ask again: What was it you hoped to teach us? It occurs to me that maybe you just wanted us to know the depths of your hatred. If that's the case, consider the message received. And take this message in exchange: You don't know my people. You don't know what we're capable of. You don't know what you just started.

But you're about to learn.

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Hm.
That almost made me want to throw up.
Sounds as if it was designed for kids.


I was listening to the radio today (BBC Radio1), when they told some info about a guy, a CEO of a company that used to be on the hundred and first floor, I think he had 700 employees.

Well, they put the recording of a small interview they did with him on..

This guy was in tears.. really sad.. all 700 employees were confirmed dead, or missing presumed dead.. this guy couldn't cope with that (who could..).. but he still had the duty of having to inform all those employees families that their loved ones had been killed. frown

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God give him strength.

In my opinion, the best and probably greatest thing the US can do at this point is to find the people responsible, and put them through court.

THAT will be more of a sign of what the USA is supposed to be about more than any pointless bombardment of will ever be.


FYI, the British Govt. would view the IRA as terrorists, while the IRA and its supporters would view it as freedom fighters.

The British Govt. is in very promising peace talks with the IRA and co and the IRA should be dismantling weapons sometime soon - it was a long process, many lives where lost, but did we have to send in helicopter gunships, fighter aircraft to wipe out vast areas to prevent terrorism?

The fact of the matter is, Israel IS the worls greatest terrorist, and the sooner people do something about that, the better.

All humans are equal.. you cannot say one life is worth more than anothers.
All humans have the right to live.

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Could it be that there would have been many less innocent lives lost had force been used in the IRA mess. Sure, a few soldiers and a few militia might have been lost, but the innocent women, men, and children would have lived. Yes, no life is more important than another, but someone who's bent on destruction by car-bombing crowded malls and parks should be put out of their and our misery.

You can't "wish" terrorists away with birthday cards and anniversary gifts. They'll soon get about half what they deserve... mad


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well stated Allen. mad

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I won't even say anything....

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Yeah, well said allen. I'm sure the FBI are on the track of finding out who it is, though they can't attack the person unless they have the best evidence that it was whoever they want to attack.

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It's sad that Americans are so blinded by current events around the world. This kind of stuff has been happening for 80 years around the world, in the middle east. This is the first time it has been so drastic with 1 day's events. It is a tragedy and I shed a tear for all that lost their life Tuesday.


But why is it When George Bush was president was bush "Gulf War". Clinton was president, nothing. Now another bush and this happens?? You do the math. America's goverment is so messed up.


Did any of you know that Bin Laden went to Harvard and was trained by the FBI to be used as a secret weapon against USSR.

I am proud to be in America and I am Palestinian, but was born in America. But America has been a big bully for years and this is a nose bleed compared other countries tragedies. But again, this all happened at once and was so sequenced it over shadows all other tragedies. I hope we do capture who did it.

But don't be surprised if it's not Bin Laden. If it is, this will not be the easy victory of a war everyone expects. Bin Laden is briliant. Extremely evil, but nonetheless briliant.

Countries are showing compasion because this is sad, but also to get in good with the USA, in case the favor is needed back. I doubt they would risk their neck if they felt they were threatened.

Even with NATO, Bin Laden will not be an easy adversary.

Arafat 'leader' of palestine donated blood, more then Bush has done for America. Also they showed Palestinian kids with signs and roses. Signs reading 'We greif for you. We are victims to'. But yet the media run by the jewish community will most likely over shadow that with 200 of 3,000,000 plus muslims/palestinians celebrating, while the rest are like the rest of the world which is greifing for America and the victims.

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CARTOON .. I completely agree with you.
Yes, Ben Ladin was trained by USA to be used against the USSR.

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Well if he was trained by the USA that means he is lethal and knows what his doing.

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Actually he was trained by the CIA.. so they cold their own againt the USSR..

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But, do we know for a fact he did it/

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I doubt it'll be proven "without a shadow of a doubt", but the terrorists killed on the planes were all known associates of his. Phone conversations between his followers have been recorded, congratulating each other on a "job well done". For once, thank god for Etchelon.

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Blinded BY current events? I think you'll find that's an oxymoron.

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So was Hitler. That kind of evil genius should be deplored, not awed.

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If that were true, why would powers like China and Russia, who have opposed US policy and actions for years suddenly feel the need for a favour now?

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So what would you have Borg?

Abandon the principles of justice and some of the values the USA was founded on.. ?

If you do, then as cheesy as it might sound, the terrorists will have broken you.

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maybe, but they won't be around to gloat about it...


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Is it me or are some of you acting like the US is the bad guy in this situation?


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I'm sorry if I seem that way, but I cannot lie to myself and portray the USA as some sort of saint or 100% pure and innocent.

Anyway, if you guys wanna carry on thinking with your manhood instead of your brain, then thats your choice of course.

I had somewhat hoped for cooler heads to prevail, but go ahead, rejoice if/when the USA bombs Afghanistan to hell, finds out it never even scratched Osama or his band of idiots, and only stirred the rubble left by the Soviet Union, putting a few thousand more bodies on top to keep the decor fresh.

Then do it all over again, when a few thousand people that realise they have just lost their loved ones to the US in those attacks, decide to commit their own brand of terrorism.

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Put them through court? Is that all they deserve. They deserve to bew executed. So many people died and all they get put through is court?

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Again, you are willing to forget the principles of American society?
Then your values are nothing but a sham?

I'd have thought out of all the forums I visit, that this one would have the most intelligent and formed opinions.. lol

http://www.isonews.com/forums/showthread.php?s=1b63d475b200438167a1d25b54a58836&threadid=44715

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I believe we are showing the values and beliefs our country was founded on and lives by. If it were not true we would have sent enough nuclear missiles to make the middle east/ southwest asia one huge crater last Tuesday afternoon.

Our government has shown remarkable restraint where none was offered in return, untold amounts of mercy where none was given. That is not to say we forgive and forget when we can never expect the same in return.

The government is making sure of suspects, targets, intent, and purpose. We will undoubtably lose American servicemen in this fight only so as little civilian casualties as possible will happen (see above comment regarding nuclear missiles). Our citizens (and those of many nations who had people working in the WTC) were not afforded the same respect.


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Well said Allen..

But I must mention that bombing for bombings sake != productive/useful.

It is very easy for Osama to hide in a nountain until the threats subside.

I just feel it obvious that a bombing has a high chance of missing the targets (they've prepared this for how long? surely they have hidden/removed anything of value by now), and more of a chance of hitting innocents.

The deaths of innocents will only strengthen the terrorist' resolve and perhaps add a few more angered by the US attacks.

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Thank you and agreed... it may still be a while before any degree of military action takes place because of the need to pinpoint targets. It would do us no good to bomb empty caves...


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I just have to share this with you. It was written by a very close friend of mine.

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As we mourn the victims of this horrible attack, we are full of emotions. Let's focus this emotional energy on helping the victims and supporting our government and military in the coming war. Let's NOT direct our emotions against any INNOCENT people in America or around the world simply because they are from a certain religion, ethnicity, or color. Leave the enforcement of justice to government, and trust in them that we will be victorious. The terrorists are against the true teachings of Islam and common sense morals, and all good Muslims have denounced them. Hundreds of Americans and legal residents who were born in the Middle East were in the World Trade Center, and they were attacked by the terrorists, as were all free people. Many of them are still missing. If we attack innocent people, we give up freedom and imprison ourselves in hatred. If we attack innocent people, we become terrorists ourselves. If we attack innocent people, the terrorists have won.

Please pass this message on to everyone you know.

Freedom will prevail.
Take care.

Sincerely,
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You have a wise friend Stilgar! smile

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just my 2c. that was horrible. the worst facet of human race, imo.

85% of the people in Afghanistan are not alphabetized. they dont have television, their main communication vehicle is radio. this kind of people cant die for others sins. on the other hand, many did.

even if you wipe mid east, the real bad guys are in other countries as well. such things would serve like another purpose for them to spread terror. its not an easy thing to ask, but you have to be brave and not choose the most comfortable way to handle this. civilian casualties will happen if a bombing in Afghanistan is to take place.

about osama. not that hes a good guy or something, but that his organization "is believed to have been targeting the United States and its allies since the early 1990s" seems a little too much for me.

from cnn.com
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"Whilst pressure is growing for the U.S. to hit back against him, there will also be pressure to ensure that they pick the right target.

Publicly the Bush administration has refrained from naming anyone as a suspect.

Getting it wrong or striking without having the evidence to back up their case could undermine international support and erode any of the moral high ground Washington could claim."

my condolences to the victims. those were the worst scenes i saw in my entire life.

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The guy proclaimed a fatwah in '96 against US service people and in '98 did the same for American civilians... it all stems from the Saudi's asking the US to help in 1990 in the Gulf War, Bin Laden didn't think we should be there. That was the reason in '91 he took his toys and moved to another country.


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It's nuts that these guys think they are serving their god and their country by fighting a jihad against us. They're against the infidels, and they say the infidels are us. They might as well be a cult, because it's absolutely insane.

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There are 2 types of Jihad I've been taught of.
One is the personal Jihad (your inner struggle), and the other is the big one, leading up to the day of judgement.
Thing is, that will happen after several LARGE events happen, and a number of these events have been specified (eg, the world will abandon Islam completly - no muslims, and eventually convert back), so until those happen... there is no Jihad.

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Well in other news, I heard that Wall street re-opened today as well as some shops in NYC. True or False?

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it opened yesterday. workers had an army escort to work. the pictures made it into yesterdays late papers

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The Dow Jones was down something like 680 points yesterday. Not that I care, I'm just saying... smile

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Did they just have mega dropdowns in Wall Street and Dow Jones? Or did they get more points? laugh

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It dropped a good bit monday, but seems to have stabilized somwhat since then.

If you wanna read something more than cool, read on:

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/18/vic.heroes/

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(CNN) -- Little more than an hour after United Airlines Flight 93 left Newark International Airport for San Francisco, California, the 757 reversed course and started heading toward Washington.

Passengers began making frantic phone calls home.

Passenger Jeremy Glick, 31, a 6-foot-1 judo champ, called his wife to tell her his plane had been hijacked. He said the hijackers had stabbed a flight attendant -- and to find out if what he had heard was true -- that another plane had crashed into the World Trade Center in New York.

When she said yes, Glick put the phone down. When he came back on the line, he told her the male passengers had taken a vote to attack the hijackers.


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Todd Beamer apparently was one of those male passengers who voted to attack. He used an air-phone to call a GTE supervisor who patched him through to the FBI.

Beamer told the FBI that one hijacker positioned in the rear of the plane claimed to have a bomb strapped to his body and that he -- Beamer -- and others were going to jump him.

He had the GTE supervisor promise to call his wife, Lisa, who was due with their third child in January. After Beamer put the phone down, the supervisor overheard him say, "Let's roll."

Passenger Tom Burnett, a 6-foot-2 former high school quarterback, was also apparently part of the group. He called his wife four times during the hijacking. On the last call, he told her the male passengers were getting ready to do something.


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"He said, 'They've already knifed a guy; they're saying they have a bomb. Please call the authorities,' " said Deena Burnett.

The fourth member of the passenger revolt -- and there may have been others -- was Mark Bingham -- a 6-foot-5 rugby player. He was sitting in the first-class section of the plane with Tom Burnett and, it turns out, two of the hijackers.

Bingham called his mother to say goodbye.

"He said, 'I want you to know I love you very much, and I'm calling you from the plane. We've been taken over. There are three men who say they've got a bomb,' " said Alice Hoglan.

There's no way anyone can know what happened after the passengers decided to attack.

It is known that after the jet reversed course and started heading toward Washington, President Bush authorized U.S. fighter planes to shoot it down if it threatened the nation's capital.

It never got that far. Flight 93 crashed in western Pennsylvania in a field 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh.


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Not to impinge on the "official" 9-11 thread, how has your views changed regarding the people surrounding the attacks of september 11, 2001?

I remember the great fear surrounding the idea that there were many people willing to die to support bin laden's cause. While there may have been some people willing to do so, the year's time since has proven that this isn't the legion that we feared. If you stop and think, there are just as many American citizens willing to die for our cause as those bands of rebels without a clue.

Travel has changed a bit here - getting on a plane to anywhere takes an hour or 2 more now than it used to. I really don't see many other changes tho. It's probably more difficult to cross the border into Mexico or Canada than it used to be.

Security at our govt. installations have increased a good bit. My nephew works for the DOE transporting/guarding nuclear material. having just hired on, his security clearance is higher than an FBI agent's.

Anyone else?


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First I wanted them caught with a vengence. But now since the prime suspects seem to have escaped I don't ever see them getting prosecuted. And then now with Hussain and his necular bomb how does this ever get better?

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First I wanted them caught with a vengence. But now since the prime suspects seem to have escaped I don't ever see them getting prosecuted. And then now with Hussain and his necular bomb how does this ever get better?
Do you just read headlines or do you actually read the whole article? Powell said that they have reason to belive he is devloping or attempting to build one not that Saddam Hussein has one.

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I heard it on the news, didn't read it.

But yeah thats what I have been hearing. And I guess he wants to do it more with all the publicity that has happened with war of Iraq. I guess this is the only way to protect himself if the US attack?

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Well... he could pre-empt that by complying with UN Security Counsel resolutions... there's about 10 he seems to be forgetting about - like the whole "not gassing your own people" one...


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My thoughts and prayers are with our friends in London frown


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The people that did this are a bunch of cowards who somehow think that taking innocent lives will somehow help to prove that their ideologies/beliefs/protests/whatever deserve to be taken seriously. Nice going there, idiots, you've definitely got my vote now!

A chilling thought struck me earlier. What if this was intended to clash not with G8, but Live8? All of the attacks took place in the vicinity of Hyde Park (take a look at the BBC's map of targeted areas if you're not familiar with London). Maybe someone in the responsible organisation accidentally said July 7th instead of July 2nd. Maybe the bombers misheard the command.

It could have been much, much worse. Now that's a frightening thought.

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