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#314706 07/13/2007 8:36 AM
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Do you plan on buying an iPhone? Inquiring minds want to know.
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What's an iPhone? tipsy


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Lol, allen is so my hero...


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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Lol, allen is so my hero...

That's funny because I recently finished watching the entire first season of Heroes on my iPhone wink

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They're cool, I'm just not into an AT&T-only phone. Verizon has much better service/coverage around here. The price should come down eventually too smile


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I think that the current iPhone is too limited. While the iPhone have a full Internet browser, the device can only be used over an EDGE cellular network.

According to a review of the New York Times the iPhone takes 1-2 minutes to load a page over EDGE eek. There are much faster mobile telephony protocols and networks out there such as UMTS or even HSDPA/HSUPA.

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exactly... iphone has a ways to go before it is as useful as the hype says it is smile


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'eh it may officially just be an AT&T phone, but like any phone all you have to do is unlock it to use it on another carrier; in fact I've heard of them being used (minimally) on tmobile.


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For me, my BlackBerry (8100) used EDGE anyway, so I'm not losing anything on speed, plus it has WiFi, so it is much faster where I can get a signal.

I had put off buying a new iPod for a long time (my Shuffle doesn't count), since my 15 gig 2G died (some parts are still alive as they were used to help revive a co-worker's iPod).

The only thing I will miss if sync with my Outlook, although if I get a promotion at the end of the year they might give me another BlackBerry anyway (although this time they will pay for it) wink

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Originally Posted by Gizmo
'eh it may officially just be an AT&T phone, but like any phone all you have to do is unlock it to use it on another carrier; in fact I've heard of them being used (minimally) on tmobile.

It's too much of a cat & mouse game to hack it. By the time they get it all figured out, Apple will release an OS update that will fix the hacks, while adding useful new functionaility.

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Lol I'd kill for a blackberry...

And yeh, unlocking phones can be a pain, I doubt they'd "patch" how to unlock/lock it as that's how providers do their updates to the phones as well wink...


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May the will update the firmware to look and see whether or not an appropriate SIM card is there - as it does now

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Most simcards are genaric, I doubt they'll take that huge of a step to stop users from using it on other services; they just want them out the door wink...


Besides, if the blackberry has shown us nothing else, it's that providers could give half a crap about choosing to allow you to download provideable updates/upgrades (WPA2 support on some older devices for example)


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Right now, the iPhone can only be used with the cards they come with. Another AT&T card won't even work.

Most other phones have a limited exclusivity on them - usually 3 months or so before you start seeing variants show up with the other carriers. Kind of how the BlackBerry Pearl was exlusive to T-Mobile for a little while and the Curve is now exclusive to AT&T. Rumors are that the iPhone exclusivity is 3 YEARS and that Apple gets revenue sharing from the monthly service (varies based on whether the subscriber is a new AT&T customer or an existing one that upgraded).

There are financial incentives for both Apple and AT&T to keep it locked down.

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hmm... what I really need is to find out what kinda phone I need from verizon that will work in jamaica, grand cayman, and cozumel next week tipsy


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their payments are done through Vesta; my wife is a supervisor there; it's quite interesting how their billing/activation works lol...


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Originally Posted by AllenAyres
hmm... what I really need is to find out what kinda phone I need from verizon that will work in jamaica, grand cayman, and cozumel next week tipsy

What you really need to figure out is why would you even want a phone when you are going somewhere to get away from it all wink

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We're leaving our little one here for the week with his grandmothers, would be nice to check in smile


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Most quadband phones should work just about anywhere you go; you should stop by a kiosk for your provider and see what they recommend.



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Originally Posted by AllenAyres
We're leaving our little one here for the week with his grandmothers, would be nice to check in smile

Ah..that makes sense. My kids barely survived 3 days with my parents last week smile

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You've got at least 2 that I know of wink David is a handful tho, he just pours drool from his teething. He went through 3 warddrobe changes yesterday smile

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Most quadband phones should work just about anywhere you go; you should stop by a kiosk for your provider and see what they recommend.


I did, verizon, the guy said the company they worked with in mexico has issues so verizon stopped using them. We may try the international calling card route - when we tried that for a paris trip the card worked, but all instructions from the operator were in french, which made the call impossible tipsy


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Oh, I understand they're going to come out with a $300 version iPhone in the fall.


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Interesting that they just straight dropped them; generally they try to work around issues with companies in order to offer services...



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Hello people smile iPhone is some fancy stuff, but if you can read the small letters, it sucks tipsy (IMHO) Nokia N95 looks more promising.

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$749? eek


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Well... I was talking about features not price laugh

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Heres a yey on the nokia N95; sexy!


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N800 isn't half bad either, at only $350~

BTW, EBay and you can get them at like a fifth the cost wink


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I also heard that you can buy a N95 for $250 in Dubai smile

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Cool, if it were only free to fly there wink

I recently got a new phone after my last one was stolen - I'm stuck with it for a while now smile


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btw, you can usually get these "discount"/(stolen) phones on ebay from places like dubai and china


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Originally Posted by Gizmo
btw, you can usually get these "discount"/(stolen) phones on ebay from places like dubai and china

I'm not talking about anything stolen wink You go there, buy it legally from an electronics shop and return home with it smile Actually, you have to sign some paper before entering Turkey (in the Airport). I don't know the procedure in the U.S., but in here, you have to register the phone with a telecom company in order to use it wink Btw, I heard that from a Associate Prof. in my Uni.

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Unless work buys it I won't be getting one. I get upset if I have to pay $39 for a phone.

It's a phone - you make a few calls, a few text messages and that's it for me. I spend 80% or more of my time within reach of a 5MB Cable modem or T1 workstation computer - I certainly am not going to spend $600 on a toy just so I can "look cool" and be annoyed as heck with the slow speed of anything Web or Java on the unit.

As for watching a video on it, come on - that too is just an annoyance. I'd much rather watch a movie on HDTV or even a 40" TV, or at the Theater than on a little window that I have to have glasses on and squint and can't really share with anyone unless you want them leaning on your shoulder (not too much fun watching movies alone).

But hey that's just me.

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well for me, I like to go out, and run around; but with the type of (self employeed) work I do I have to be available; and we have hotspots everywhere here, so a "smart" phone with a web browser to replace my PDA (I need WPA vs WEP in some places) would be grand...


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Umm, congradulations on spending way too much money for a first gen item that'll likely burn out all too soon lol...


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I understand you can serve web pages from your i-phone smile


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There are a lot of addon programs that aren't supposed to work but do work. Plus a lot of hidden OX stuff too. It's got an SSH server in there. You can add an ssh client. Apache would not surprise me at all. There's a nintendo emulator that I've seen. It's really cool. Looks good and runs very smooth.


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Well, if it's based on OSX it's underlying system is linux, so it wouldn't suprise me what you can port over to it... Likely has an ARM processor, and there is a lot thats already coded to work on that (hell, a NDS has the same thing)


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Well I don't have one but my boss has one (the company bought it for him) and he says he is about to go back to his blackberry perl

Seems there is no voice recognition on the unit, the e-mail need IMAP (similar to POP3) to get all his mail but we don't run it on our Exchange Server.

Some other pet peeves too (personal annoyances more than faults of the unit I suppose)

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