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Which OS do your UBB Threads run on?
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Linux - Redhat
Linux - Mandrake
Linux - FreeBSD
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RedHat 7.3

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RedHat 7.3

They were running on Sun Solaris until last weekend.

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RedHat 7.3


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Wow! It appears that so far I am the only one running threads on Windows 2000 against 6 Linux ones

That kinda makes me unique LOL


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It doesn't have an "all" option.


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RedHat 7.3

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How much you wanna bet I can install cygwin on a win2k box, install mysql, apache, and php into that, and run a threads on it?


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I take your word for it However I have installed RedHat 8.0 on Virtual PC on my Windows 2000 box. The drawback is that it is quite memory hungry that one... so I lost half my RAM with that "experiment"

That would be cool though... I don't know if it will be efficient...


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Red Hat is one of the most popular web server OSs out there

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I test on my own WinXP system, but the server stuff is on is Cobalt Linux 6.0 ...

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Well so far it is 15-2 (*nix - Windows) with 1 Other... What might that be?


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My production board is on RedHat. But I have my development copies running on my Mac OS X.

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That's cuz it's so easy to setup. The downside to that is basically every service is turned on by default when you do an install So, unless you know to go in and turn them off you leave your box pretty wide open to attacks


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At least with the RH 7.3 installer you could unselect a whole lot of those unneeded services and they wouldn't even get installed. With the new 8.0 installer it's darn near impossible to leave that stuff out. You have to install all of it and then go back and remove the packages afterwards. Of course with all the RPM dependencies you only get to remove half of what you really want to get rid of.

But! Install Win2k server and you'll find the same is true so RedHat is getting closer andcloser to thier target goal.


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Gentoo Linux!

Only services i want are installed and running. Everything is customized to my exact hardware and never have any dependency problems. Compiling everything takes a bit of time but is well worth it. Versioning is a thing of the past as only the install cd's have versions. Upgrading packages is a as easy as typing "emerge apache -u". I could NEVER imagine going back to an RPM based system.


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I was gonna say that Windows does the same thing

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Yeah Gentoo is the solution if you don't want to end up with loads of "junk" that you don't need...

As for Windows... I calculated once that out of the 45Mb installation of Windows 96 you barely needed 27Mb, but because they have crossreferenced a lot of files removing them is virtually impossible.


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This is worse than when Michael Schumacher lapped the whole field in Spain 1996

23-2 Gosh we are a rare breed us the windows ones...


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OS X Server / OS X Jaguar G4 400

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In few days I change it for Debian

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eh I love free BSD :8

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SuSE Linux 7.customized *g*

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[]navaho said:

But! Install Win2k server and you'll find the same is true so RedHat is getting closer andcloser to thier target goal. [/]

The next version of windows server is supposed to ship 'secure by default'... maybe someone gets it up there too


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My point was that RedHat is "dumbing down" their setup and installation proceedure to the point where it is becoming Microsoftish, with fewer and fewer setup options and decisions. While their new limited installer, desktop appearance, and applications are perhaps more appealing to some, and it may gain them a few more Microsoft converts, it has really started to turn me right off on RedHat.


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Got my Win 2003 server disk for beta testing it a few weeks back. Installed it on a dual p3 500 xeon box to serve up a couple of my sites. Very impressive to say the least. I didn't serve any sites with any of the betas and basicly used for it for intranet testing. It is completely locked down after install. You have to enable the services you want to run. Configure your server manager starts at boot by default and is used to configure the services you want to run. I run http, dns and terminal services. After each service is enabled you then have to configure them to work correctly. Even after being enabled not all functionality is there until you use the snap-in to mange it. Enabling http will only enable serving static http pages. You have to turn on scripting and setup the permissions. You will get an insecure box only if you make insecure.
I also picked up the Web Edition. This edition isn't sadled with CALs and is much cheaper than Standard or Enterprise. It's target is people that would like to run Windows, but, don't want to pay the high price for the license. At $360US it's still out of some peoples price range, but, many people will start to use it. It's only a bit more than WinXP full version.
It runs very well. It looks like MS is heading in the right direction. Making a viable server platform that is much cheaper and secure out of the box than many free alternatives. While it might never replace the free alternatives it will definitely give Redhat and other enterprise server solutions a run for its money.


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