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#291837 03/27/2002 10:39 AM
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Updated to beta 2. Basically this fixes a couple of bugs and reworks the colored font markup. You can now use any color with (no spaces)

[ color:red ] test [ /color:red ]

or

[ color:#FF0000 ] test [ /color:#FF0000 ]

This also adds the instant graemlin, ubbcode and fontcolor clickers to the newpost/newreply/editpost/previewpost screens.


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[:radioactive]Testing radioactive!

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Scream:

I like the new color feature, but I have a suggestion. Rather than having it close with [ /color:red], how about just having it close with [ /color]? It seems rather redundant to have to put the red at the beginning and the red at the end.

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two things that could be optimized []/forum/images/icons/wink.gif[/]:

In reply to:


test


<-- quote-tag reconversion seems to fail if you edit the post

and it would be nice to have tags placed around text you marked up with your mouse instead typing the text into an dialog box (we use such a hack in our forums, it's IMHO a better solution)

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I wasn't able to get the uncoversion working before but I might be able to now. I'll try a few things and see if I can get it fixed.


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Sounds like a good idea, however I'm definitely not a javascript guru. All of the code for this is in one template so when the final is released maybe you can try making some adjustments and post the finished results?


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You need to hack some more files than the template to implement the hack. Each file that prints a <textarea> needs to be modified. for expample:

<textarea cols="80" rows="15" class="formboxes"
wrap="soft" name="Body" [:red] onChange=getActiveText(this) onclick=getActiveText(this)
onFocus=getActiveText(this) ></textarea>


Here comes the script we are using.

<script language="javascript"><!--

function getActiveText(selectedtext) {
text = (document.all) ? document.selection.createRange().text : document.getSelection();

if (selectedtext.createTextRange) {
selectedtext.caretPos = document.selection.createRange().duplicate();
}

return true;
}

function returnTag(tag) {
if (document.forms(0).Body.createTextRange && document.forms(0).Body.caretPos) {
var caretPos = document.forms(0).Body.caretPos;
caretPos.text = tag;
} else {
document.forms(0).Body.value+=tag;
}
document.forms(0).Body.focus();
}

function doppeltag(tag1,tag2,alt) {
if (document.forms(0).Body.createTextRange && document.forms(0).Body.caretPos) {
var caretPos = document.forms(0).Body.caretPos;
caretPos.text = tag1 + ((caretPos.text.length>0) ? caretPos.text : alt) + tag2;
} else {
document.forms(0).Body.value+=tag1+alt+tag2;
}
document.forms(0).Body.focus();
}

//--></script>



returnTag is the simple function for smileys. There is just one string to add at cursor position.
doppelTag (rename it to doubleTag if you want []/forum/images/icons/wink.gif[/] ) checks if there is a selection.
If yes, then it encloses the selection by tag1 and tag2.
If not, it prints the string specified by 'alt' enclosed by tag1 and tag2 at the cursor position.

Some examples how to call the functions:


<A HREF="javascript:returnTag('[ grin]')">...</A>
<A HREF="javascript:doppeltag('[ url]','[ /url]','link')">...</A>
<A HREF="javascript:doppeltag('[ url=',']description[ /url]','link')">...</A>
<A HREF="javascript:returnTag('[ Image]url[ /Image]')">...</A>
<A HREF="javascript:doppeltag('[ b]','[ /b]','text')">...</A>


This only works with IE. Using an other browser it will only add the smiley at the end of the textarea. (or it will do nothing at all []/forum/images/icons/wink.gif[/] )

PS: NeooeN and me are from the same board

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Is the beta available for download anywhere?

I wouldn't use it as my regular board yet... but it would be fun to set up a test board to play with.

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Not yet. As you can see there is still a little bit of work left before we're ready to put it in the Member Area. []/forum/images/icons/smile.gif[/]


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It would be nice if when you edit a post the tags convert back correctly. This seemed like a bug that was never fixed in previous versions. Now maybe it can?

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The beta is not displaying in Netscape on my Mac . THe header is displayed but no other infomation []/forum/images/icons/frown.gif[/]

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Wow.
Just checked that when I read your post.

Rick, figured you'd want more info... in Netscape 4.6 for the Mac... only the headers show up (see attached pic). Oddly enough, the Index Page shows up just fine.

I also checked this in Netscape 6 for the Mac. That worked fine.


**OOPS - File attachment thing isn't working... I got an error (flashed too quick for me to see what it said) and the Attachment link here is broken.
The "screen shot" can be viewed at: http://www.atlantasingleschoir.com/netscape.gif

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Yeah, there is a bug in the current version where the footer is actually printed after the closing body / html tags.


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Is there an unofficial update of when we get to play with the beta version. []/forum/images/icons/wink.gif[/]


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We are looking at a public beta right around the 19th or so. Would have been earlier, but there are a few things I still need to get fixed/cleared up before releasing to the public. Sorry for the delays.


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Take your time Rick.
While we're all anxious. The improvements will be worth the wait.

You're a genius. []/forum/images/icons/smile.gif[/]

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No need to hurry []/forum/images/icons/wink.gif[/] If the public beta is released then it stands to reason then that the final version which we can use in a production environment will be end of May at least. Hopefully by then we can get the javascript issues worked out so markup truly works and does not break when editing etc.

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Updated to Beta5 here... some more buglets whacked []/forum/images/icons/smile.gif[/]


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Well it is the 19th []/forum/images/icons/wink.gif[/]

Any idea, when a public beta might be in the offering?

Impatient as ever []/forum/images/icons/smirk.gif[/]

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That's right... forgot it was already the 19th []/forum/images/icons/smile.gif[/] Releases are usually in the evening, ~5pm or so PST. Keep an eye out for it coming to a neighborhood near you soon []/forum/images/icons/smile.gif[/]


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I think we all are waiting. I do have a question? Not bashing Infopop here since I do own their products. Mind you I recently went out and bought this product a few months ago. I recently purchased Vbulletin to compare. I had the dough lying around. I love UBBThreads as it to me is faster and much easier to configure than Vbulletin. However here is my question since it also included a place like here ( hacking such things vbulletin has included free ). Why is Infopop making a basic Yugo and we have to keep coding in what is essential to us. However Vbulletin has these features included and is less in price? Like I said it would take me a while to configure the other software to the look I want and it is harder so I am pleased with UBBThreads. I just for the life of me can't figure this one out.

Again this is not a bash and I don't want anyone replying and trying to down Infopop. UBBThreads is a nice streamlined easy to set up board( it just lacks the air conditioning and power windows ). I just thought Rick himself or someone close to the scene's might have a clear answer to this one. I know it takes time to code things I figured infopop would have bought Vbulletin and seen how things work []/forum/images/icons/wink.gif[/]

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I don't speak for IP, but do know changes are being made. Other features/improvements are coming, but getting the base code right in the major version change comes first. I'd keep an eye out for 6.1 and 6.2, should be some nice additions coming []/forum/images/icons/smile.gif[/] As seen in some threads posted here in the last couple days, server load has to be addressed first, and it seems that v6 should pass with some flying colors []/forum/images/icons/smile.gif[/]


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Cool. I hope things progress nicely. Seems like us people who buy infopop products need to keep adding hacks to duplicate what other products have included naturally. With the addition of the java code base Rick should be able to add things that he previously could not in 5.5.1 and earlier.

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A simpler answer is that while Rick is one awesome guy he is one awesome guy. I think Rick has brought UBBThreads a heck of a long way in a very short time. (which is not to put down where it came from either []/forum/images/icons/smile.gif[/] )

One thing people seem to be missing is that while UBThreads 6 doesn't add 75 new features it adds two important base qualities that will allow all these features to be added:
All the HTML being moved to templates
All the work that Rick did to make the database use more efficient.

Once 6.0 is put to bed the ground work will have been laid to start piling all the cool features in there.


Just remember that all those features do come at the expense of efficiency and speed. It just made more sense to get that part baselined in the best manner before adding anything else.

As far as hacks go... I don't think there will ever come a day when there are no people working on hacks. I hope not anyway. []/forum/images/icons/smile.gif[/]

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LOL There will always be hacks. I meant the base features in Vbulletin that UBBThreads does not have. By the way Vbulletin has the HTML in templates. Version 6 seems real nice should make things easier like Navaho said to add the thrills.

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Just curious...

What "thrills" does Vbulletin have that Threads doesn't?

(I can't afford to purchase this stuff to compare... lol) []/forum/images/icons/smile.gif[/]

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Like I said I love Ubbthreads but to name a few a built in calendar,posting buttons and scripts way superior to what we have now in 6.0( image buttons ) a referer system to refer members so you can run contests and track the status through a users profile All kinds of features it goes on and on. You can add modify upload anything from the admin page ( smilies,avatars,code, etc etc ) These are all things you can add as hacks in Threads but are standard in Vbulletin. However like I said much harder to configure as their templates are great but harder to edit as they are threaded and broken down into every aspect. It is about 70 bucks cheaper to own and member area support is only like 30 bucks a year. I decided to own both. []/forum/images/icons/wink.gif[/]

here is a test forum you can play with and get the feel

http://www.reeftalk.com/vbulletin/

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All of them features sound great! I do believe that in time Scream will have much much more under the hood of this vehicle. []/forum/images/icons/wink.gif[/]

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I know he will as well. I do not think Infopop will allow that much of an edge for too long against their product line. That would be bad for economic business []/forum/images/icons/wink.gif[/]

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Scream, just one observation, you said:

> [ color:red ] test [ /color:red ]

oops?
If you use the "Font color" Instant code from the NEWREPLY.PHP it produced a different closing tag:

[ color:red ] intant test [ /color ]


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[ /color] I believe is the correct closing tag now []/forum/images/icons/smile.gif[/]


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