ok, thanks. There were quite a few changes by you, myself, omegatron, ekempter, gardner, id242 and a few others between Mark's release in may '03 and our last one in 12/05 - some were to just update to work with the different 6-series threads, others were to fix a lotta bugs and add some nice features. I may look at it at some point. If I do I need to write an importer for the old classic links script, it imported from the OLD gossamer threads links script