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#90502 - 07/27/05 11:26 AM Family Trees
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA Add to del.icio.us Digg it	I know that it's about as off topic as we can get around here, but I found a rather nice Family Tree builder (PHP/MySQL) online a few days ago and took my stab at my family's roots (we have a large list that my Aunt Barb and Uncle Pete made up when they converted to be mormon's); well in short the software that I was using not only took all of the informaiton in an hour (111 records in an hour, go fig) but I can also go to my son and look at a list (on both sides) as far back my great grandfather... Not only that but I can go to the Ancestery section and view it as much as 8 generations back... The cool thing is, the script does all of the linking, all I really did was input data on who is related to who and how (mother/father, sister/brother, etc) and it linked them all as the exact relation, it came out quite nice. The software itself cost a measly $5, it's called TUFaT (The ULTIMATE Family ancestry Tree) ; you can see my tree here . The cool thing about this script is that if you have numerous familys to create tree's for (such as a friend or acquantence) you can run multiple seperate trees on one install... Additionally it also has a backup script built into it... It's a really nice piece of software for such a low cost; the cost is mainly what made me sway from coding one myself as I'd spend much more time than what $5 could have gotten me... PLUS it also allows you to export files to GEDCOM format which is readable from most geneology programs that you can download... _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#90503 - 07/27/05 11:16 PM Re: Family Trees
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	Nice work There's another nice script out there: "The Next Generation" geneaology software: http://tng.lythgoes.net/software.php It's a little more money ($27), but has lots of features and is easily customizable too. I'm using it on a family site I hope to eventually open to my family _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#90504 - 07/28/05 03:54 AM Re: Family Trees
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	Wow, that is pretty entertaining and looks nice (even nicer than mine lol); you have a demo open of it by chance? _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#90505 - 07/28/05 10:48 AM Re: Family Trees
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	It's pretty nice, to see a demo, go here : http://lythgoes.net/genealogy/demoframes-public.html and click on the template links in the upper right to see how it looks with the 4 default templates to choose from _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#90506 - 07/28/05 10:53 AM Re: Family Trees
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	Very interesting.. I see that they support GEDCOM imports and exports; just like my current; I may shell out $27 for a license just to compare the two with the data I have ... I do like their templates a bit more; as well as the way data is outlined; any idea how they are with support? Mine sucks with the solution i went with; supposidly they only do user to user support which is a complete pain... Also, can you delete users in yours? for whatever reason I can't delete users or even edit the gender of users once they've been added (somehow i listed my niece as being a male).. _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#90507 - 07/28/05 10:19 PM Re: Family Trees
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	I believe it's all editable by the admin, I haven't tested with other users. They have support forums tho the author isn't very active. He does update the script pretty regularly tho: 5.0.0 - 14 May 2005 5.0.1 - 24 May 2005 5.0.2 - 6 June 2005 5.0.3 - 21 June 2005 5.0.4 - 14 Jul 2005 There are integrations for 'nuke' and mambo modules, etc. _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#90508 - 07/29/05 05:45 AM Re: Family Trees
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	Interesting; I had taken and emailed the admin and got a response within half an hour, which is pretty impressive considering that I emailed him at 9a and had expected to at least wait until the evening... I'm all in all quite impressed and will likely be converting (not like I paid much for my original solution)... _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#90509 - 07/29/05 01:22 PM Re: Family Trees
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	He emailed me back quickly when I re-did his scripts into xhtml and css - he didn't use them, but he emailed me back to thank me pretty quickly _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#90510 - 07/29/05 02:56 PM Re: Family Trees
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	Yeh, I tend to like to tear things apart ... It does seem like it'll be a fun project and I definately like the way his script outlays multiple marriages (such as my mother with 6 children over 4 relationships)... I wanted to see how my data would look from my GEDCOM output from MyFamilyTree so I asked if he could throw up a demo and had one up within 10 minutes; the support is definately pretty good! That and just about anything that i could have asked for was made possible quite quickly... I definately enjoy that I can assign a password to a certain portion of my tree (or even a secondary tree) for people to be able to update! definately will save time . _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#90511 - 07/29/05 02:56 PM Re: Family Trees
Burak Addict Registered: 05/29/00 Posts: 1820 Loc: Istanbul, Turkey	looks nice but this kind of applications must be a desktop-app instead of a web-app IMHO... You are limited with browser capabilities... _________________________ one bytecode to rule them all
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#90512 - 07/29/05 04:02 PM Re: Family Trees
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	true, tho I think the good points about being able to share with far-flung family members far outweighs the drawbacks there. I've got Ayres peeps all over the US _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#90513 - 07/30/05 06:07 AM Re: Family Trees
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	The benefits Burak are thus, you can import and export from a GEDCOM database, so you could use an application such as MyFamilyTree to import the database, make any changes, then export them to the web application... I did find one thing that I liked though; I get to specify steppatents and adopted parents with the script allen is using... it's very promising... _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#90514 - 08/10/05 09:04 PM Re: Family Trees
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	Version 5.0.5 released today _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#90515 - 08/10/05 09:41 PM Re: Family Trees
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	Lol cool; I haven't had the spare cash to buy myhself a license; I'm anticipating it sometime this month though... _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#90516 - 09/06/05 05:14 AM Re: Family Trees
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	Like clockwork 5.0.6 - 3 September 2005 _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#90517 - 09/06/05 06:39 PM Re: Family Trees
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	Welp, I just got my TNG license; rather fast processing... I'm going to work on getting it installed tonight then toying with it tomorrow then building a theme ... _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#90518 - 10/01/05 01:04 AM Re: Family Trees
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	version 5.0.7 released _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#90519 - 11/12/05 12:09 PM Re: Family Trees
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	version 5.0.8 released now _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#90520 - 11/12/05 04:44 PM Re: Family Trees
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	You mean I have to upgrade again? hehehehe... _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#90521 - 11/15/05 12:30 AM Re: Family Trees
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	not so fast... 5.0.9 released today _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#90522 - 11/15/05 12:41 AM Re: Family Trees
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	lol man, i JUST downloaded the archive _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#90523 - 11/15/05 10:01 AM Re: Family Trees
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	http://www.ayresfamily.org/tree We have a big family reunion at thanksgiving every year, I hope to get info for it then _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#90524 - 11/15/05 04:20 PM Re: Family Trees
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	Mine is (as always) http://tree.corthell.info/ (and http://tree.corthell.net/) I've compiled all the information that my great aunt compiled when she became a mormon; additionally i've been doing some work with the reports section wherein trying to get it to list all birthdays in the db via month when requested which will coherse others into wanting info added so they can easily update calendars ... _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#90525 - 11/16/05 02:01 PM Re: Family Trees
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	I like your index page's design _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#90526 - 11/16/05 03:57 PM Re: Family Trees
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	Quote: Originally posted by AllenAyres: I like your index page's design Took a while; I don't like the shading differance between the two tables (ones fairly dark whereas the other is light); I'll probably pl,y with the images eventually. I now get to (eventually again) work on the layout of the script itself (other than just the index) _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#90527 - 11/21/05 02:01 AM Re: Family Trees
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	A notice was sent out today for a patch of TNG which patches an issue where users could send mail through your site without the normal permissions _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#311657 - 10/11/06 01:03 AM Re: Family Trees [Re: Gizmo]
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	Glorious 6.0 announcement recieved, though it's a $12 upgrade fee hehe... I'll probably have some spare cash next month, not entirely sure, things are tight right now ... 5.1.4 came out in June: Quote: 1. True dates (calculated on import) were getting zeros for the day of the month (fixed). 2. On the individual page, the blank line at the end of the list of citations was removed, and the indent style was adjusted to work better with both IE and Firefox. 3. Users who were not assigned to a tree and who did not have rights to see living data were getting a database error (fixed). 4. Notes were sometimes being sorted incorrectly (fixed). 5. The GEDCOM importer was always skipping the line immediately following "1 SOUR" (fixed). 6. The GEDCOM exporter was outputting "1 CONT" when it should have been outputting "2 CONT" (fixed). 7. The GEDCOM exporter was outputting blank lines in some cases (fixed). 8. Special characters in an image file name would not allow that image to be previewed in Add New/Edit Photos (fixed). 9. HTML validation improved in some spots. 10. Custom Event Type definitions were being misidentified in the importer when the type description was longer than one line (fixed). 11. Headstones that were linked directly to a cemetery were still being shown with the rest of the headstones for that cemetery, instead of just at the top of the page (fixed). 12. Children of single parents were being orphaned when the parent was merged with another individual (fixed). 13. Source notes were being lost on export (fixed). 14. Events with no data (ie, just a "Y") were being lost on export (fixed). 15. The "tentative edit" window was displaying "Living" instead of the subject's name, even if the user had living rights (fixed). 16. The Merge routine was incorrectly displaying "Sealed to Parents (LDS)" when it should have said "Sealed to Spouse (LDS)" (fixed). 17. The Merge routine was not displaying the "Baptism (LDS)" field (fixed). 18. Default photo thumbnails were not being displayed for living individuals if "Show Living Data" was set to "Always" (fixed). 19. Adding a new State/Province/Shire/Country in browsers other than IE no longer requires a refresh in order to see the newly added item (fixed). 20. Users with edit rights for a specific branch could edit individuals assigned to other branches if "Show Living Data" was set to "Always" (fixed). 21. Anti-spam measures improved regarding the "Suggest" feature. And I can get it free with my v5 license so i'll probably just upgrade to that for now... So many things that I want to play with ... _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#311659 - 10/11/06 01:11 AM Re: Family Trees [Re: Gizmo]
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	Oh, and the 6.0 changelog is at: http://lythgoes.net/genealogy/recentchanges.php Lots of changes... _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#311660 - 10/11/06 01:39 AM Re: Family Trees [Re: Gizmo]
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	Yeah, I want to update too, not enough time in the day to get everything done _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#311666 - 10/11/06 04:16 AM Re: Family Trees [Re: AllenAyres]
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	or money in my pocketbook :x... _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#311672 - 10/11/06 04:54 PM Re: Family Trees [Re: Gizmo]
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	6.0.1 is out, so maybe I'll find some time to upgrade _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#312530 - 01/06/07 05:14 AM Re: Family Trees [Re: AllenAyres]
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	THis is kinda sad, I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to stay with TNG... I just upgraded the server to PHP5/MySQL5 (which are now pretty much standards) and TNG doesn't run on it (the user lookup dies)... I'm pretty confident and sure I can upgrade the files myself, and may give it a go... likely Darrin didn't code for register globals to be off, but I sent him an email to hear his thoughts on it... _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#312533 - 01/06/07 12:29 PM Re: Family Trees [Re: Gizmo]
AllenAyres I type Like navaho Registered: 03/10/00 Posts: 25411 Loc: Texas	If you do it, post it in their forum so it will be adopted by their main support guys... that usually helps darrin get it into the base code _________________________ - Allen - What Drives You?
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#312546 - 01/06/07 08:09 PM Re: Family Trees [Re: AllenAyres]
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	yeh I emailed hm last night, haven't gotten to check that email today yet though; I will likely pay for the upgrade to the latest build then hack in some php5/reg globals off support (honestly, it really ins't that hard). One thing to keep in mind is that, from what i hear, safemode and registerglobals won't be an option in PHP6, so cleaning them up in php5 should be a priority for programmers... _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#312547 - 01/06/07 08:11 PM Re: Family Trees [Re: Gizmo]
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: 5119 Loc: Portland, OR, USA	Just read Darrin's email, he said that there are indeed issues with TNG running in PHP5, but he's relatively sure that they've all been fixed with TNG6... I'll test it out when i have the $ to upgrade. _________________________ UBB.Dev - Where you too can render your UBB install completely useless... UGN Security, Elite Web Gamers & VNC Web Design Owner
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#312548 - 01/06/07 08:13 PM Re: Family Trees [Re: Gizmo]
Gizmo Wizard Registered: 01/10/00 Posts: