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I've passed on these links to a few of my friends and they went into immediate shock. A few even had to assume the fetal position in the corner because it just overloaded their mind and made their new custom built system looks like a cheap Fisher Price Toy. It was really that bad. wink

Once they came out of the shock their first reaction is to call Visa for a credit limit increase or immediately plan to knock over a bank. In other words, please don't click the links if you recently spent all your money on a new computer or if you have less than $5000 in the bank that you can spend. What you see here will keep you up at night trying to figure out ways to buy it! eek

http://www.go-l.com/desktops/machl38/features/index.htm
http://www.go-l.com/laptops/hollywood/features/index.htm
http://www.go-l.com/monitors/index.htm

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actually steve, I found out recently that it is an elaborate hoax. There's a bunch of things that give it away, if you'd like I can direct you to some sites that dispel it.

sorry to burst your bubble man. frown

I too was majorly impressed by this when I heard about it about a year ago. However it unfortunately isn't real and may in fact be a scam as they are apparently taking orders! eek

This is at least according to some research I've done.

here's where I found out it was a hoax... http://www.musicianchat.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000003 I had heard about this company earlier on another site.

They have several different aliases. One entry point actually has a js trojan and should not be entered less you have a patched version of IE or whatever you use. (scan for viruses now if I were you . frown )

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Nope, its not a hoax!

L had a booth at Comdex last month showing off each of their products. My friend ordered the 17" Hollywood Extreme laptop there and has just received it. Yesterday he ran checks and benchmarks and it was completely as advertised and ordered.

ComputerWorld just picked their monitors for their Annual Cool Stuff: Super-Geek Specials Guide .

The UK's Inquirer just had this article specifically dispelling the "hoax." (The UK's Inquirer should not be confused with the tabloid we have in the US.)

Lastly, that web page that was put up claiming it was a hoax is apparently eating crow about it now. They also point out that the trojan problem was related to Interland\'s own problems . Interland since wiped the trojans and patched their servers.

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I was wondering how they might compare to the 'god box':
https://www.ubbdev.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/ubb/get_topic/f/10/t/002370

but I can see it's not even close to these screamers... you think it'll play solitaire a bit faster? tipsy

Can't imagine how cool they must be... would literally fly through the UD files yay


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wow. Thanks Steve. smile That really does clear it up. I'm going to relay this info to my forum where that post was made. I hope you don't mind.

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A couple weeks ago I wrote about L\'s Computers For The Rich and Famous and mentioned the 17" Hollywood Extreme that my friend ordered. Well, I borrowed his earlier this week for a few hours (without his knowledge,) took some of it apart, and noted all the FCC numbers on the boards and components so I could search for their Original Design Manufacture (ODM.) I got it all back together and returned it to his desk. My friend still has no clue that his laptop was gone or that his warranty was voided until now. Actually, I'm just joking about the warranty, I was very careful so no one could tell that it was opened.

With the FCC numbers and a little sleuthing with the help of Google I discovered that the laptop's ODM was Clevo . Besides being offered through L I've found that almost identical systems are sold and rebranded under several other companies at almost every price range. These companies include Alienware , Sager , Velocity Micro , Voodoo PC and several other smaller resellers. Most of the rebranding is nothing more than a label and badge change, but some of the resellers offer special custom paint jobs or in Alienware's case a different designed case from the others. The guts are the same. Apparently Clevo also manufactured/manufactures for Dell, HP, Gateway, eMachines, and many other "laptop manufacturers."

In speaking with a Clevo rep I've found out their most active reseller is the United States is Sager, who also has its own set of resellers, some being better than others. PCTorque came highly recommended and I've found their own Talk Notebook forum (unfortunately it runs vB frown ) has a wealth of information on anything and everything to do with laptops. From reading the support forums once can also see that PCTorque seems to be very concerned with customer service and providing nothing less than a positive experience.

Through their forum I've found out about the upcoming Sager 8790 . It is an updated version of the L 17" Hollywood Extreme that my friend bought and it will be approximately $2000 less than what he paid. (Yes Learch! I had to bring it up again. ) I've almost certainly decided to order one as soon as its available through PCTorque. There are rumors that might be as soon as Wednesday, I can't wait!!

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arghh... I just ordered a Dell this morning smash


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arghh... I just ordered a Dell this morning smash
business or home?

the home systems I've had a lot of trouble with... (maybe just bad luck)... but someone told me that the business systems are solid.

I'm on a Dell Inspiron 8200 right now.

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small biz smile it's an inspiron 8600. I normally have good luck with dell, hopefully this will too smile


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Over the years I've owned three Dell Inspirons, a Toshiba, two Gateways, a Compaq, a NEC, and a IBM.

Of those the only ones I liked and would buy again was the Toshiba and the first Gateway I had. The only reason I kept buying the Dells was because they provided financing. After all my problems with the Inspiron 8200 I'd *never* buy anything else from Dell again, including desktops and accessories. I'm sick of their support and the rules they have that keep the few good techs and customer service people they have from making you happy.

I'd cancel the Dell and take a closer look at Sager and Toshiba if I were you. If you're a member, Costco has a really tempting 17" Toshiba right now.

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I own a Dell desk top, too late for the one's above. They drive a Hummer while I drive a mountian bike..

At least mine is a Pentium 4... Oh well

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I'm on a Compaq Evo N800c right now and loving it. 1600x1200 display and a gig of DDR memory on a P4 2.4 GHz. It has a combo DVD/CDRW drive and wireless too.

If I were to buy one for myself and not for work I would look at Toshiba for sure, and AlienWare of course but they tend to run hot.

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Alienware's are Clevos. Look at Sager, they run much less for the same thing with a uglier case.

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My past history includes a handful of Dells, a couple of Toshibas, and a TI. All have generally been what used to be known as a desktop replacement/brick. These days they seem to be able to pack a lot more into smaller and lighter cases. While I'd love an ultralight for my next latop, I don't want one that requires external drive connectors.

I don't really have any say in terms of what machine I wind up with, as it is generally whatever the company is buying at the time. For the last 3-4 years its been Dell Latitudes, prior to that Toshibas. I don't travel as much as I used to, so it mostly stays docked. I usually get to ramp up the specs versus the standard, as they consider me a power user for some reason or another wink

I'll probably put in a request for a replacement to my current laptop within the next 6 months.

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I want that sager 8790 in the worst way.


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I wouldn't want any laptop that would cause me to have to carry a larger bag, or one with wheels for that matter.

Of course, I recently switch to a geekpak

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I have an Inspiron 8700 that is a couple years old. I doubt I would need a bigger bag.


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Ah ha Dell Fans, wonderful, I think, LOL laugh

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I just dropped by from the forums @ talknotebooks.com

Wanted to let you know that a couple posters are mistaken in their statements that Alienware laptops are made by Clevo. That used to be the case. Alienware notebooks, as of last year, are now made by Uniwill (and if you check their website, you will immediately see that they harbor no resemblance to their stronger, yet uglier, brethen of the Clevo line).

Also, since this was brought up because of Go-L, I suggest perusing the talknotebooks.com forums- you'll find a review by one of our members (MEDDUDE) that purchased (and ultimately returned) one. We've also had postings from Go-L themselves. If you're interested in the Clevo line, definitely stop by smile

But if you want an 8790, ya have to get in line wink

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I have an IBM T41p and I am VERY happy with it, best laptop I used in years. (this summer I was using a DELL I 8600 and didn't like it so much)


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I have a dell 4150, it's not that bad, fits in any size backpack... 40gig hd, 1.7gig proc, 32meg video...

OS: [Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 1 (5.1 - 2600)]
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CPU: [1-Intel Pentium 4, 1196MHz, 512KB (50% Load)]
Memory: [Usage: 231/256MB (90.23%)]
Screen Resolution: [1400x1050 32bit 60Hz]
GFX: [MOBILITY RADEON 7500]
Network Interfaces: [#1 (3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible) - Packet Scheduler Miniport (100Mb/s) 15348.97MB In, 19863.80MB Out)]
Disk Capacity: [C: (9.76GB Free, 37.26GB Total)]

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The long awaited Sager 8790 is finally available for ordering and I placed my order Friday:

Sager 8790-S Notebook
Display: 17" WXGA+ LCD (WideScreen 1440 X 900)
Processor: P4 3.4GHZ Northwood CPU
Video: 256MB ATI Radeon Mobility 9700 (M11)
RAM: 1024MB 400DDR Dual Channel (2-512MB)
Main Hard Drive: 80GB 5400RPM
Media Drive: 2X DVD+R/-R/RW/CD-RW
Bay 2 Hard Drive: 80GB 5400rpm
RAID: Hardware Raid 1 configured with OS pre-install
TV Tuner/Subwoofer: NTSC TV Tuner/remote AND Subwoofer
Floppy Drive: No
Modem: 56K RJ11 Phone Modem
Network Card: 10/100/1000 NIC
Operating System: Windows XP Professional
Battery: 8 Cell Li-Ion Smart battery
Wireless Network: Internal 802.11g TURBO (108Mbps) wireless
Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth
Card Reader: Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader
Camera: Integrated Digital Video Camera

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I may not be far behind.


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I got it today, and its nothing less than awesome. Only draw back is its weight. I'm working on a full review.

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sweet :jealous:

Lookin forward to the review smile


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I definately want to read the review. I've decided that I won't be getting a laptop afterall, so I need to live vicariously.

New Laptop? New House? New Laptop? New House?

New house won.


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heheh, know what you mean Nav, I'm still running for my home computer an old dell server I bought back in 96 - a PII 233 with a 4gb HD laugh Can't spend it all on toys wink


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I'm only on a P4 1.7GHZ laptop with 256meg of ram; I so need more... It's a pain when you're forced to multitask all the time for work lol... But the RAM is only $60 or so for each 256mb stick, or double that for each 512 meg stick, which if I go that route I'd go for the full gig heh...


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waiting for the review smile


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its coming, its coming (soon)

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My birthday is in less than a month :x...


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well it seems a bit BIG for a laptop nooo?


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found a review of my laptop, the IBM T41p
http://www.trustedreviews.com/article.aspx?art=252


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are we there yet? laugh

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Oh jeez /me slaps his head

I posted a link to my full review in the staff forum several weeks ago and completely forgot about posting it here too....

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Sager 8790-S

After using the Sager 8790-s over a week I must say that I'm still very impressed. Everything about it is nothing less than perfect.


I've done quite a bit of video editing with Adobe Video Collection Pro and even had some free time to squeeze in a little bit of gaming. The added performance of the 3.4GHZ Pentium 4 Northwood CPU with Hyper Treading and the 400DDR memory is easily noticed. I've had many laptops over the years and none of them ever came close to how a desktop performs. To tell the truth, at first I found it a little odd now having a notebook that out performs every other computer I use. But after the first couple days I found myself used to the speed and even stopped using my desktops in favor for the Sager.


In addition to its superb performance I can't begin to describe how much I like the 17" wide LCD screen. I must admit that I was a little hesitant to order the 8790 since it wasn't available in WUXGA. (WUXGA should be available this summer, but, I'm glad I didn't wait for it.) The smaller screen resolution hasn't been a hindrance at all and I find the crispness and clarity of the display to be a very welcome surprise. The display is also very well back-light, even in a brightly light room. In addition I've been unable to notice any artifacting or ghosting that is common with most LCDs.


Another welcome surprise was the feel of the keyboard and its touch pad. I've always been one that hated touch pads and preferred a pointing stick instead but I've found that this touch pad has perfect response and feel. The keyboard doesn't have that flexing problem that plaques most laptops and the key travel feels natural and comfortable. The only draw back with it is the wrist wrest can get a little warm and cause you to sweat a little. Some people might not like this but I don't feel its a serious problem or a reason to chose another notebook.


I have not received the removable sub woofer (as its on backorder) but I am still very pleased with the internal sound system. There are two speakers on either side of the keyboard and two on the front of the unit. While you can't expect these small speakers to fill a room with sound, they do produce very clear, quality sound. Additionally you can't compare the speakers with those typically found on a notebook as they're in a higher class, all by themselves!


I've only used the Internal TV Tuner briefly but I've found that it produces a very crisp and clear picture from cable TV, so much so, that it could easily be mistaken for a high definition picture! The included remote and software were easy to use and seemed well designed and very stable.


The notebook has an internal 7-in-1 card reader which is very convenient as you don't have to lug another item in your notebook case. It also reads and writes data to the cards faster than most USB card readers.


I only purchased the 8 cell battery since I typically never operate my notebooks away from A/C power. Nevertheless, I still tested the battery performance and found that I was able to watch a complete DVD movie while operating only on the battery and still had another 20 minutes of power left.


A few of my friends keep asking me if there is anything I would change on the Sager 8790 and I'm hard pressed to think of anything other than its weight. The notebook weighs in at around 9 pounds and because of its size it can be a challenge to pick up with one hand. Once you load it into your bag along with its power brick it can feel like you're carrying an ARMY sack. But this is the price you pay for a wide screen notebook with desktop power. When you compare the 8790 to other similar notebooks you'll find it is much lighter and thinner than most. I don't even want to imagine owning one of those other ones!
I've had the notebook for just about a month now and over all I'm still very impressed and pleased. Its very hard to find falts with it. But I do have a couple updates since writing my first review:

I've received the subwoofer and I'm disappointed with it. I'd suggest anyone considering the 8790 forgo it in place of the TV Tuner.

The sound it produces is just ok. I don't believe it adds much to the experience.

Also the way the subwoofer is set up, you must uninstall the TV tuner and plug in the subwoofer. Its not just a question of sliding one of the devices out and sliding the other in. They must be unscrewed and screwed in place and there are tiny (fragile) plugs that need to be connected. I can see these plugs easily breaking if you switch from the subwoofer to the TV tuner more than a few times.

The other problem is the full charge on the eight li-ion battery decreases quickly if you run the battery down just a few times. The first time I ran it down completely was when I did the DVD movie test. The second time was when the unit was accidental unplugged and I didn't notice it until I got the low battery alarm. I tried the DVD test again about a week later and I wasn't able to get to the end of the movie. It only had enough power to last about an hour. All li-ion batteries loose some of their capacity each time you run them down completely but it seems like the 8cell battery that is included with the Sager's is more susceptible to this. If you could do without the TV Tuner you'd probably be better off choosing the 12 Cell battery.

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I want one of those, I realy do. But, I bought a house instead. Can'tlive inside a laptop.

I also answered your PM since you posted your review wink


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this seems to be the same laptops as Sager, isn't it ?

http://www.bacoc.com

does anybody have any experience with D900 ?
is this Clevo D900T ?

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Yes it is, haven't seen one first hand though.

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