blogs - leave 'em. They dont really turn me on in the least, i got too much code to write to be a blogger.

But in fairness - I have recently seen them put to very good use in the area of Win32 development and i have a few on my favorites list. Places where some hardcore codemonkey records his or her findings, lessons learned the hard way, and other key links and feedback on experiments with new technologies and/or beta stuff. This kinda blog makes for a very useful and fast jump-start for when the release version comes out and your not up-to-snuff on the community learning curve the beta version junkies already conquered. Much quicker to scan-n-salvage tasty nuggets from a blog vs. drilling endlessly in newsgroup reader. Only downside being -no matter how serious a blog is, you inevitable have to tune out atleast 2 or 3 ugggg insights on either A)the family dog, B)the hated neighbor, or C) the dreaded exwife

New licensing rules/ pricing/ and limits began yesterday, and the people are howling:

http://www.movabletype.org/support/index...68acca904d4368d



IP tried this at one time and it went over like a lead balloon... SA is gonna get burned for a while over this dramatic change.

Ouch, I was thinking about trying out movable type for a community instead of having something programmed myself, guess that idea is a flop :x...

One thing they should have done, which they may, make the new version and make it pay, THEN release a bunch of the exploits and strongly urge everyone to upgrade... It'd peeve everyone off :x

pmachine is taking advantage of their mess:

http://www.pmachine.com/

They're giving away 1000 copies to those who switch

I've donated for all my copies of MT but after these drastic license changes and the pricing hike I'm done using MT. As far as I'm concerned SixApart can no longer be trusted. They've backpedaled a little over the past few days but it still isn't enough. It wasn't reasonable for them to even think about making the kinds of changes they first announced.... When most people started using MT, it was free for noncommercial use and there was never any hint of it being a "commercial product" or a money making venture and only TypePad was always supposed to be the profit wing of the company. Instead they tricked the blogging community into using it, developing addons, plugins, templates, and hacks and now that it has a huge user base and a lot of things developed for it they're going to pull a fast one and begin charging unreasonable fees. :rolleyes:

As soon as I have some time I'm going to switch all my sites that use MT, over to WordPress . Its free, open source, and just as feature rich. In addition, its released under GPL, so I'll never have to worry about being forced to pay ridiculous and arbitrary fees for features that should have simply been included in the first place.

Gimme your MT! lol... I'd like to play with it; old version anyway heh.

You can still download 2.661 which remains free for noncommercial use.

3.0 is still available for free, isn't it?

http://secure.sixapart.com/

There's a whole box in the right hand column about getting it for free.

It's free but you can only have like 3 authors... So if you were planning on making a blog site you're kinda backed over a table as you can only ahve 3 users...

true, but I imagine ~80%+ of the users would fall under the one author rule

Almost all the most popular (noncommercial) blogs have multiple authors and many bloggers host a few of their friends' blogs so that purposely low limit is to an attempt to grab money for what was promised to always be a free program for noncommercial use.

Difficult for me to say... there is a free version available still. Kinda hard to pay bills while giving away all your work too.

I can only think of phpbb as the only decent free internet software app that still remains free after all these years.

Free software either gets real popular or dies.

Real popular free software gains lots of followers who make constant constraints on your time, usually requiring lots of support.

Developer is either independently wealthy or gives up after a while, or begins aking for money for his time.

Well i can understand a slight price, $20, something reasonable; but the direct jump up that high? and even then it's limited lol...

exactly Grizzy. Most bloggers would happily pay $30-50 but for most people this will cost up wards of a few hundred dollars.

Perhaps, but anyone who's been around any script site that went from free to paid (ubb in the version 4 era) always has the same complaints. Whatever the pricing model, it's too high. Voting with your pocketbook by not buying is really the only say we have in something like this.

Still, there's still a free version available, and version 2.661 works well for 95+% of the people

MT finally released a final 3.x version:

http://www.movabletype.org/

With a bugfix version right after... they're on 3.11 now... maybe I can finally put it to some use

http://www.movabletype.org/news/2004/08/movable_type_31_launched.shtml

nice, and they released a plug-in pack to go along with it

http://www.movabletype.org/developers_contest_plugin_pack_2004.shtml

Mt just updated to 3.121, get it while it's hot

MT is up to 3.14 now... not sure why I have it, surely I can use it somewhere

I knew there was a reson to look here. What's up Allen? I'm still using PMachine for www.randymcelroy.com and still thinks it's a great way to. MT was a nice app but I didn't spend a lot of time with it. I need to give it another look now that it's (quite a few versions) newer.