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Javier: That is another great idea on ways to use this, something I hadn't even thought of. NIce!

Tech: Yeah, he's talking about Style Templates... His Header doesn't work right in Netscape, so he will just use a different Header for each template and let users pick which browser they have...

LK: Um, fine by me. We're on Tech's server, so I'll have him PM you with some more info about that...

---Skorpion

Skorp-> yeah the idea works out great! Glad I could add another benefit for it's use hehehe...

Tech-> I think skorpion grabbed what I was trying to say. See, by setting up a different style template for netscape users, I can avoid the problem I'm having with site integration and netscape.. a different template for netscape users that maybe doesn't surround the whole forum as a table... I think you've seen my forum so you probably know what I'm saying

we'll have a bit of help for the cross-browser issues within a week or so...

Sorry, I told you I was tired.

Tech-> it's cool...

Allen what cross browser issues? Mine are just design problmes

Just wanted to say it looks like it is going to be a great mod

Any word on how much it will beef up the cache size (if you were to use it of course)?

I was going to try to do this before but some projects @ work has brought my spare time down considerably. My approach was a bit different though (and will probably be made easier with the release of 6.1). Without a doubt cache friendly (and usable even on non ubb site pages!)

Change the style sheets as opposed to ubb styles.

Based my idea on this script
http://www.sfu.ca/~ajdelore/cssfile/

Anyway, since you guys are still developing this, I wanted to bore you with my thoughts, ideas and well wishes on the project!

just another approach to consider.

<FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE="1">[ July 20, 2001 02:20 PM: Message edited by: freakscene ]</font>

Your CSS-changing idea is good, and would work very well for large sites that want to allow this level of user-customization but don't want to forego the cache. However, all that does is let you change the colors and fonts and stuff (unless there's something there that I'm not aware of). By changing the actual UBB Style Templates, we can allow the users to change everything from colors to graphics to nav menus to just about anything else that can be customized.

As for the cache thing: At this time, it actually reduces the cache, cuz it doesn't use it at all. Good for your hard-drive space, bad for your processor. However, in order to make a cache-friendly version, someone (maybe LK? i don't remember...) suggested that we actually use different caches for each style. In that case, the cache size would be affected by how many styles you offer - if you offer two choices, the cache size doubles; four choices, it quadruples, and so on.

---Skorpion

Not me

The images and things would definatly be a no go with the css option. forgot about those DOH! Forgot all about those!!!!

You can control table/cell colors with css though. Would be a pain defining all the classes in the templates to give it to amount of control I would like though. Also you would have to keep in mind that the page colors will be changing when designing graphics.

Maybe you guys could kick out a light version using the css idea for bigger sites that use the cache. I would estimate it to take you guys around 5-10 minutes

Anyway, keep up the great work and I'm looking foward to it!

<FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE="1">[ July 20, 2001 02:58 PM: Message edited by: freakscene ]</font>

I was going to suggest that your CSS version would make a good Light Edition, but I figured you'd want to develop it yourself. If you think it's alright for us to do it, we'd (I'd, anyway, I can't speak for Tech and LK) be more than happy to give it a shot.

---Skorpion

<FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE="1">[ July 20, 2001 03:08 PM: Message edited by: Skorpion ]</font>

AFAIK, CSSs are also cached

Of course it is alright! Definatly looking foward to that too!

I only Wish I had the time to do it. I'm about 99% done with another mod I have been working on for waaay too long - Super UBB image control (allows you to have mouseovers + flash buttons as options for any clickable image in the ubb)

Can't wait for 6.1!!!!!! Bet the page loadtime is 1/2 with the unmentionalble enhancements I am thinking they have added.

Are you sure? You do not link directly to the style sheets when you code it this way, you link to a script that sets the style sheet based on a value set in the users cookie when they made a selection.

local cache maybe but I doubt it would store other values (color, font size or whatever) in the UBB cache since the style sheet is translated when it is called by the browser as opposed to being processed on the server.

<FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE="1">[ July 20, 2001 03:19 PM: Message edited by: freakscene ]</font>

I wouldn't mine doing that for a light edition.

I'm pretty tired, if it's <link rel= it's ok, but then if many people enter it at the same time they'll have problems because of &lock;

<FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE="1">[ July 20, 2001 03:21 PM: Message edited by: LK ]</font>

Skorpy, I advise you to wait until 6.1.0 is out before releasing this hack.

Why?

&ServeFromCache() and &LoadTemplate()

If this thing works anywhere near the way I think it does, you can *EASILY* modify those two routines... not only will it be cache friendly, but it will be MUCH easier to code....

Charles, we have decided to wait till 6.1.0 to release this hack because of how close is it to being released and since 6.1 is going to be different. We just posted a small board to show everybody what it will look like.