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#315812 - 09/25/07 12:06 AM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: AllenAyres]
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I've been in florida since 1980, I love them because they cleanse the Earth. I guess I take a more pagan and naturalist point of view on it. Earth = Overpopulated and being destroyed by Chemicals. Hurricane = Cleansing Rain and refreshing forests.

Destruction sucks, I never said I want anyone to die, but destruction is a necessary evil and I happen to enjoy the hurricanes.
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#315814 - 09/25/07 12:16 AM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: AshtarRose]
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You haven't been through a direct hit from a major hurricane then - they don't 'refresh forests', they remove them. We lost more than 60% of our trees in Hurricane Rita - and we're surrounded by trees and forests.

Rita didn't affect population either... unless you are counting trees. Not sure where you're getting your simplistic view of hurricanes - they're not a nice breezy rain.
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#315815 - 09/25/07 12:34 AM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: AllenAyres]
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It's difficult to hug a tree as it passes you...

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#315816 - 09/25/07 12:39 AM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: AllenAyres]
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I live to be the other side of the fence post. smile
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#315817 - 09/25/07 01:06 AM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: AllenAyres]
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Originally Posted By: AllenAyres
It's difficult to hug a tree as it passes you...

wink
lol, unless you can jump really high lol
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#315884 - 09/27/07 08:12 PM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: Gizmo]
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Other side of which fence post? The one that Hurricane Andrew flung though the side of a house 5 streets down, at 100 miles an hour?

I was in Andrew, which I've posted a picture of. How you can look at that picture and find something "Cleansing" in that debris is simply beyond my ability to comprehend.
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#315889 - 09/29/07 01:28 AM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: navaho]
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I didn't quite understand the comment either, it didn't quite fit the conversation smile

Like I said earlier, people who haven't been in a direct hit from a major hurricane really have no idea what it's like. "Cleansing" is not a word anyone can attribute to the millions of tons of debris that get sent to landfills after a major hurricane; or to the destruction of millions of trees.
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#315893 - 09/29/07 04:37 AM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: AllenAyres]
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From a purely artistic stance, I'd love the chance to experience one (we only have earthquakes out here, it's rare to see a funnel cloud and it's even more rare that it touches ground) however at the same time I know and understand the destruction and find their wake horrifying...
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#315896 - 09/29/07 04:48 PM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: Gizmo]
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Originally Posted By: Gizmo
From a purely artistic stance, I'd love the chance to experience one


You can only truely experience one, you have to live there, be part of the community, be part of the long term effects. There's no tv image that can even get close to getting the real feeling.

I am so happy we have no hurricanes, earthquakes and stuff here. We just have a fight with the water, but we're winning that fight for over 50 years now.
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#315912 - 10/01/07 09:56 AM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: blaaskaak]
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There's nothing 'artistic' about living through/after a hurricane - you lose your stuff, family, history... everything. Nav's pictures are good examples.

I got the chance to visit Amsterdam for a very short while between flights last year Yarp™ - beautiful country.
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#315914 - 10/01/07 05:34 PM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: AllenAyres]
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I've been involved in far too many hurricanes in my lifetime. Glad we don't have them out here.
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#315915 - 10/01/07 07:12 PM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: navaho]
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I'm not saying that the wake is artistic, but nature itself is... You're telling me theres nothing beautiful or captivating about a tornado? nevermind what is actually happening, the pure awe of its power is beautiful...

What it does is horriffic, I will agree there, but nature is beautiful, even lightning, and lightning starts mass forrest fires; a dry summer and hot sun causes forest fires as well... yet fire is beautiful, trees are beautiful, lightning is beautiful...
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#315917 - 10/01/07 11:20 PM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: Gizmo]
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Maybe artistic in a 'Twister' sort of way with Helen Hunt holding on to some pole, but in real life... if you are in the path of either a hurricane or tornado there's nothing artistic about it. My mother's best friend was ripped from inside her home and thrown against a tree by a tornado - they found her the next morning up against the trunk covered in ants. She died that evening from the injuries. She was in her fifties - spent her life raising her family and caring for cancer patients.

No, I don't see art in this. Those with personal experience don't. Those who do are a bit naive - nothing personal, but 'art' kind of comments... it's difficult to respond without getting very blunt.
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#315921 - 10/02/07 12:58 AM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: AllenAyres]
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So you see no beauty in this picture?

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#315929 - 10/03/07 03:11 PM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: Gizmo]
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I see art in the photography, but that's all.
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#315931 - 10/03/07 05:39 PM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: navaho]
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Originally Posted By: navaho
I see art in the photography, but that's all.
I knew you'd be a smarta.. about it lol
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#315934 - 10/04/07 12:35 PM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: Gizmo]
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There's a difference between looking at a picture and wishing a tornado/hurricane on yourself because you think they're beautiful - that borders on insane with a definite touch of immaturity. smile
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#315942 - 10/04/07 05:25 PM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: AllenAyres]
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Did I ever wish a hurricane on anyone? I simply stated that I.. you know what, nevermind, my words will be missconstrued and i'll have people pissing and moaning about whatever i say.
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#315944 - 10/05/07 01:18 AM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: AshtarRose]
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Originally Posted By: AshtarRose
I want a hurricane soooo bad



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#315949 - 10/05/07 06:16 PM Re: Here I am! Rock me like a Hurricane! [Re: AllenAyres]
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And i point at the name while being yelled at for the statement lol
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