I think that the current iPhone is too limited. While the iPhone have a full Internet browser, the device can only be used over an EDGE cellular network.
According to a review of the New York Times the iPhone takes 1-2 minutes to load a page over EDGE . There are much faster mobile telephony protocols and networks out there such as UMTS or even HSDPA/HSUPA.
Gizmo
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'eh it may officially just be an AT&T phone, but like any phone all you have to do is unlock it to use it on another carrier; in fact I've heard of them being used (minimally) on tmobile.
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For me, my BlackBerry (8100) used EDGE anyway, so I'm not losing anything on speed, plus it has WiFi, so it is much faster where I can get a signal.
I had put off buying a new iPod for a long time (my Shuffle doesn't count), since my 15 gig 2G died (some parts are still alive as they were used to help revive a co-worker's iPod).
The only thing I will miss if sync with my Outlook, although if I get a promotion at the end of the year they might give me another BlackBerry anyway (although this time they will pay for it)
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Originally Posted By: Gizmo
'eh it may officially just be an AT&T phone, but like any phone all you have to do is unlock it to use it on another carrier; in fact I've heard of them being used (minimally) on tmobile.
It's too much of a cat & mouse game to hack it. By the time they get it all figured out, Apple will release an OS update that will fix the hacks, while adding useful new functionaility.
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Lol I'd kill for a blackberry...
And yeh, unlocking phones can be a pain, I doubt they'd "patch" how to unlock/lock it as that's how providers do their updates to the phones as well ...
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Most simcards are genaric, I doubt they'll take that huge of a step to stop users from using it on other services; they just want them out the door ...
Besides, if the blackberry has shown us nothing else, it's that providers could give half a crap about choosing to allow you to download provideable updates/upgrades (WPA2 support on some older devices for example)
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Right now, the iPhone can only be used with the cards they come with. Another AT&T card won't even work.
Most other phones have a limited exclusivity on them - usually 3 months or so before you start seeing variants show up with the other carriers. Kind of how the BlackBerry Pearl was exlusive to T-Mobile for a little while and the Curve is now exclusive to AT&T. Rumors are that the iPhone exclusivity is 3 YEARS and that Apple gets revenue sharing from the monthly service (varies based on whether the subscriber is a new AT&T customer or an existing one that upgraded).
There are financial incentives for both Apple and AT&T to keep it locked down.
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You've got at least 2 that I know of David is a handful tho, he just pours drool from his teething. He went through 3 warddrobe changes yesterday
Originally Posted By: Gizmo
Most quadband phones should work just about anywhere you go; you should stop by a kiosk for your provider and see what they recommend.
I did, verizon, the guy said the company they worked with in mexico has issues so verizon stopped using them. We may try the international calling card route - when we tried that for a paris trip the card worked, but all instructions from the operator were in french, which made the call impossible
btw, you can usually get these "discount"/(stolen) phones on ebay from places like dubai and china
I'm not talking about anything stolen You go there, buy it legally from an electronics shop and return home with it Actually, you have to sign some paper before entering Turkey (in the Airport). I don't know the procedure in the U.S., but in here, you have to register the phone with a telecom company in order to use it Btw, I heard that from a Associate Prof. in my Uni.
Unless work buys it I won't be getting one. I get upset if I have to pay $39 for a phone.
It's a phone - you make a few calls, a few text messages and that's it for me. I spend 80% or more of my time within reach of a 5MB Cable modem or T1 workstation computer - I certainly am not going to spend $600 on a toy just so I can "look cool" and be annoyed as heck with the slow speed of anything Web or Java on the unit.
As for watching a video on it, come on - that too is just an annoyance. I'd much rather watch a movie on HDTV or even a 40" TV, or at the Theater than on a little window that I have to have glasses on and squint and can't really share with anyone unless you want them leaning on your shoulder (not too much fun watching movies alone).
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well for me, I like to go out, and run around; but with the type of (self employeed) work I do I have to be available; and we have hotspots everywhere here, so a "smart" phone with a web browser to replace my PDA (I need WPA vs WEP in some places) would be grand...