I could probably muddle myself through it (they have a number of "bridges" to other products), but for everyone I set up thus far - if they want to spend some cash on their site, I usually suggest Threads and Photopost (if they need gallery capabilities).<br /><br />Unless they are totally against either product (or want to go the free route), they have always liked both Threads and Photopost.<br /><br />Coppermine in terms of code is decently solid, I am just so used to Threads and how easy it is to navigate through the code, add/change things around, etc, that Coppermine is almost foreign at first glance. I am ironically coding a front-end (albeit I am sure a buggy one) for my clients that 'just' want Coppermine and the semblance of a portal.