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#223651 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: Gorlum]
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You'll have to disable cache. <br /> <br /> <br />I just checked the scripts you mentioned. They all are passing categories. It has to be that your caching the information. <br /> <br />Set cache times to 0 to turn them off. <br /> <br />Oh, also forgot, set "force public" to 0 because otherwise it clears the Cat variable when generating IIP pages.


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#223652 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: sjsaunders]
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Would be cool if the members could select what "category" their website fit in when they input their website name, that would allow these :<br />http://www.threadsdev.com/index.php?Cat=&paction=membersites<br /><br />to be able to look like these: http://www.threadsdev.com/links/
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#223653 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: SurfMinister]
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I have always thought there should be "more" to the member's sites page and this will be very doable once I get the link directory I am using on my main site cleaned up and smoothed out for IIP use. What is needed is a category table and an additional 2 fields in the w3t_Users table to store a link "title" and the category it belongs to. Then when displaying the member's sites you could draw in the categories from the link directory and break it down that way. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /><br /><br />The link directory is something I *have* to have for my main site so I may well put this feature before a few others for 6.0's release.
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#223654 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: sjsaunders]
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Profile index page<br />the Add to Address Book and<br />Show all posts buttons are broke, member pics arent showing (on my site, looks ok here?), and in the 2nd column the Extra2 field isnt showing the name, it says "Extra 2"<br /><br />Quickest version so far.. I was able to add a couple extra pals to my page without increasing the load time. <br /><br />Thanks again for this excellent mod!<br /><br />If I were you I would at least make a link available in your profile or something that points to a PayPal box where (if people wanted) they could donate a lil bit just to say thanks or something. Maybe no one will donate, maybe so... But we definitely wont if you dont give us a way to...<br /><br />

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#223655 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: FlamingoWorld]
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Thanks for the tip. I'll look that script over again. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#223656 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: sjsaunders]
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so many features in one mod!<br /><br />I was curious about how you see this mod used by the majority of ubbt owners.. Do you expect most of them will use this as their root level home page?<br /><br />If so, it should be called Home, not Entrance...<br /><br />If its used as an entrance, as it says, then how about adding the choice to use the entrance as my start page when logging in.. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /><br /><br />I thought a lot about how I could best integrate this mod into my site and I personally would much rather have almost every one of these individual pals available to me for use throughout my site, not just on the entrance page by using includes in my header.tmpl. For instance:<br /><br /> - using the login pal on every page...<br /> - using the topthreads pal on the postlist page for forum2 only (by putting the pal in a custom header for instance)<br /> - using the pollpal on every page<br /> - using the profilepal on every page<br /><br />I was just curious how you envisioned it being used.. Because I mean you have a lot of configuration on how the page itself can be displayed, but If I personnally were going to use this as MY home page, there would be a LOT of things I would like to change. Maybe that's just me<br /><br />I would like to recommend that you pretend you have never been to a message board before and then take a good look at ubbthreads.com's home page (iip) <br /><br />Hitting this page truthfully confused me the first time I saw it.. There is no logical flow to it..Among other things, to use it as my home page I need a big "Welcome to my site! This is what we do... Click here to enter the forums and look around"<br /><br />As a first time visitor I have felt almost bombarded with with stats and information and polls and top posters from a whole web site I dont know even the basics about yet..<br /><br />Clicking on any link on the pages puts everywhere but the Main Index.. Wouldnt the logical flow be from Entrance to Main Index to A Category or forum to a thread? IIP now throws you from Entrance to thread, leaving you to learn to navigate out or click back to return to the Entrance<br /><br />The link to the Main Index (I think) should be the biggest link on the page.. Newbies need direction, the other members know to look for the itty bitty "Main Index" link at the top of the page and/or they understand what all the stats/info on the index page mean, and they use your mod as it was intended.<br /><br />-----------<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

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#223657 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: FlamingoWorld]
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Ok... here goes...<br /><br /><blockquote><font class="small">posted by webwolfe:</font><hr /><br />I was curious about how you see this mod used by the majority of ubbt owners.. Do you expect most of them will use this as their root level home page?<br /><br />If so, it should be called Home, not Entrance...<br /><hr /></blockquote><br /><br />I actually have no idea how most users use this. I just know how I want to use it. LoL but, they can rename the language file entry to what ever they want so it's just a matter of preference, I guess. One of the things that kept me from calling it "Home" was that it wasn't always used as the "main" index page on a site but sometimes as a secondary index within the forum area. But then again it's changeable to what ever the admin wants. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote><font class="small">posted by webwolfe:</font><hr /><br />If its used as an entrance, as it says, then how about adding the choice to use the entrance as my start page when logging in..<br /><hr /></blockquote><br /><br />This has been done before as far as making modifications to .threads to allow for such a thing. It's a more involved hacking job to make it so but it's not that bad. I had ran into a bug with my test site (older version) where I could not view "my home" because it always took me back to the entrance. I can't remember what the problem was but I had to use phpmyadmin to fix it.<br /><br /><br /><blockquote><font class="small">posted by webwolfe:</font><hr /><br />I thought a lot about how I could best integrate this mod into my site and I personally would much rather have almost every one of these individual pals available to me for use throughout my site, not just on the entrance page by using includes in my header.tmpl. For instance:<br /><br />- using the login pal on every page...<br />- using the topthreads pal on the postlist page for forum2 only (by putting the pal in a custom header for instance)<br />- using the pollpal on every page<br />- using the profilepal on every page<br /><hr /></blockquote><br /><br />I have done used almost every pal in this manor on my 6.0 test site. Now that I'm using templates you can wrap a .threads template call with IIP's and have IIP's information available. I mentioned this somewhere around here already though. It takes like 3 or 4 lines of new code per .threads page to do this.<br /><br /><br /><blockquote><font class="small">posted by webwolfe:</font><hr /><br />I would like to recommend that you pretend you have never been to a message board before and then take a good look at ubbthreads.com's home page (iip) <br /><br />Hitting this page truthfully confused me the first time I saw it.. There is no logical flow to it..Among other things, to use it as my home page I need a big "Welcome to my site! This is what we do... Click here to enter the forums and look around"<br /><hr /></blockquote><br /><br />I guess I didn't think it was any worse than to walk into a *nuke site. An admin doesn't have to use all of IIP's boxes though. IIP 5.0's index page can be edited to include such a "welcome box". With 6.0's template layout I have placed a great BIG honking welcome box in the middle of the page... LoL of course since it's a template it's removeable or whatnot. <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" /><br /><br /><br /><blockquote><font class="small">posted by webwolfe:</font><hr /><br />As a first time visitor I have felt almost bombarded with with stats and information and polls and top posters from a whole web site I dont know even the basics about yet..<br /><hr /></blockquote><br /><br />Again this is a matter of prefference. An admin doesn't have to use every IIP box on their index page. <br /><br /><br /><blockquote><font class="small">posted by webwolfe:</font><hr /><br />Clicking on any link on the pages puts everywhere but the Main Index.. Wouldnt the logical flow be from Entrance to Main Index to A Category or forum to a thread? IIP now throws you from Entrance to thread, leaving you to learn to navigate out or click back to return to the Entrance<br /><hr /></blockquote><br /><br />Should this content have misleading links that all end up going directly to the main index or category list instead of what they actually are refering to? I guess I see no point in providing links to anything if they all go to the main index. Why not just have one big link centered on the page that says "click here" to simplify things?<br /><br /><br /><blockquote><font class="small">posted by webwolfe:</font><hr /><br />The link to the Main Index (I think) should be the biggest link on the page.. Newbies need direction, the other members know to look for the itty bitty "Main Index" link at the top of the page and/or they understand what all the stats/info on the index page mean, and they use your mod as it was intended.<br /><hr /></blockquote><br /><br />This is completely controllable by the site's admin. They can edit the navigational templates and modify it to how want it to look. One could even wrap this link with the "standouttext" class so it's more visible yet controlable by the style sheets. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />To sum things up as far as how I view IIP it's pretty simple. About 2 years ago I would have paid someone to write the things I'm creating now for my website then. Of course I couldn't afford to do that so I muddled through. Two years later I still can't afford to pay someone to do the things I'm creating for myself for my website but I am muddling through a little bit better so it's not that bad. I'm glad too that others are using this and providing feedback and helping find the errors and whatnot as it helps greatly. I do listen to suggestions and requests and try to work things in when possible but it's not always easily done. Some of the these more difficult requests require modifying .threads much more than I care to get into with for fear of how much explaining it will take when things don't work. At this point I think 5.0 needs very little modification to be done on .threads to work. Unfortunately the features of 6.0 will require more .threads modifying to work but I guess it should be expected. In the end I just hope this helps those that are at where I was 2 years ago start off not having to muddle as much as I did... LoL
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#223658 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: sjsaunders]
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I really dont mean to criticize your work. You are (to me) on a neverending journey of ending one version of IIP to begin the next. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /><br /><br />If I can reply now and get you thinking from a perspective you didnt consider before I feel we all benefit in the long run.

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#223659 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: FlamingoWorld]
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Your last post sidetracked me but I remembered what it was I was going to post... lol <br /> <br />I updated profilepal.php. The links "Edit this member", "Add to address", "Send private message" and "show all posts" seem to be working here now. The new file is in this main post's IIP 5.0 attachment. <br /> <br />I have never used the "add to address" feature and it wasn't clear that it had actually added the name. When I clicked on it it displayes the profile of that user. I think the whole "add to address" thing should go to the users's actual address book listing instead. <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> <br /> <br />Edit note: make that the post before your last post... lol


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#223660 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: sjsaunders]
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Okay - maybe I'm a dolt - but - I'm running UBBThreads6.1br, have followed the simple instructions for the 5.0 IPP and when I open index.php in my browser window I get a ubb screen that says:<br /><br />Index Closed <br /><br />We are currently updating this page. <br /> <br />and the additional copyright info I'm supposed to click on for the config page and no link.<br /><br />?<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />BD <br /><br /> Glen Lachart Scotland

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#223661 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: FlamingoWorld]
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hehe well actually the journey I'm on is to get my main website updated before 2003. I have been spending to little time on it and have a huge list of things that need to be done. *sigh* <img src="/forum/images/icons/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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#223662 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: ezzotint]
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Are you logged in and an administrator of the site? I believe you should see the link if so. I'll check the index page once more to make sure I didn't forget anything to make sure.
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#223663 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: sjsaunders]
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Dave,<br /><br />Just installed this - as you know <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" /> I am never straightfoward <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /><br /><br />Would it be easy to allow for the pals folder to be in a different directory to threads?<br /><br />I have got it working, by altering several links in several pals, but there is probably a quicker way <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /><br /><br />If not do not worry - I will edit manually.<br /><br />Ian
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#223664 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: sjsaunders]
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Yes. Well I CAN log in as admin and get my admin options for UBBT6.1br - then I can either open a new browser window and open index.php which I've put in "the desired location" which happens to be the site root www.GlenLachart.co.uk/index.php and I get the same thing - no soap. Does the index.php file need to be somewhere besides the root?<br />

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#223665 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: ezzotint]
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This is what I get at the bottom of the page:<br /><br />UBB.threads™ 6.1b1<br />.: IIP 5.0 by David Lozier ©2002 :. <br /> no link

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#223666 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: ezzotint]
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[]Yes. Well I CAN log in as admin and get my admin options for UBBT6.1br - then I can either open a new browser window and open index.php which I've put in "the desired location" which happens to be the site root www.GlenLachart.co.uk/index.php and I get the same thing - no soap. Does the index.php file need to be somewhere besides the root?<hr /></blockquote><br /><br />I was also missing the link - maybe it doesn't ike the British <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /><br /><br />
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#223667 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: Gorlum]
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Actually no there is no easy way. I did away with about 9 "options" (paths/urls) to simplify setup. That's why the instructions say to place it in your .threads directory and not move anything. This cut down on alot of "why this" and "that dont" lol
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#223668 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: Gorlum]
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Are your cookies set site wide? If not then the page doesn't recognize your admin auth.<br /><br />I forgot to add that check in there as this happens *alot*.<br /><br />I'll bet your cookies are not site wide.<br /><br />And I'll also be putting in a check right now. LoL
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#223669 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: Gorlum]
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Ack... guess I didn't put that into the "setup" text file. I have changed the setup instructions as follows:<br /><br />Step 4.<br /><br />If your placing the index.php page outside of your .threads install directory you will need<br />to make your cookies "site wide" so that the index page can authenticate the viewer. The next<br />step will not work unless you have done this step. In the .threads config.inc.php file find this:<br /><br />$config['cookiepath'] = "";<br /><br />to this:<br /><br />$config['cookiepath'] = "/";<br /><br /><br /><br />Step 5.<br /><br />Load the index page into your browser and click on the IIP copyright link at the bottom<br />of the page to access the configure panel. Follow all steps in the "INITIAL SETUP" <br />box and set the other box values as desired.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Sorry about that... <img src="/forum/images/icons/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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#223670 - 09/24/02 06:28 PM Re: Integrated Index Page (IIP) 5.0 [Re: sjsaunders]
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ah ha, Okay now after scrolling thru the UBBT config settings where do i set cookies "site wide"? Doesn't seem to be an option in there for that

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