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#222162 - 08/08/02 04:22 AM (NA) at replies in threaded mode ?
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In flat mode there are (NA)'s at every single reply that is not approved,<br />but in threaded ( in both forum and thread view ) -<br />only if it's a new NA thread <img src="/forum/images/icons/frown.gif" alt="" /><br /><br />Could anyone add (NA) to the replies in threaded view ?<br /><br />With the Bypass Moderation hack the permissions are perfect,<br />but if it is so hard to "catch" these unapproved posts,<br />it would be just useless work for weeks, months, years ?<br /><br />There is sure another option to find unapproved posts,<br />but there are also way too many clicks involved:<br />The moderator don't know if there any unapproved posts at all, still have to do every day:<br />Admin-->Approve Posts--->Choose a forum(every forum, if you have 20<br />rather rare used forums - you still have to repeat it 19 times )<br />-->Submit--->now open every post to verify the content.<br />It is more then inefficient, it's simple waste of time,<br />if you moderate it long time this way...<br /><br />Well... a fix of (NA) would be a great improvement already,<br />but the perfect solution would be one of these:<br /><br />1) A modification of (NA) :<br />"NA" at the forums names, where you have unapproved posts;<br />that would save moderator X clicks to open X forums,<br />just to find out that only in 1 he can see unapproved post.<br />Even more moderator-fiendly would be to display everything,<br />where is anything unapproved inside, in different color:<br />say Forum's name is red, if there is any unapproved post inside,<br />the same with threads ( for the "flat" fans <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" /> )<br /> <br />2) A Link in the header, visible only for moderators and only if there is anything unapproved !<br />( like the PM icon with link )<br />One click on the link - posts from all forums displayed<br />( the same as viewunapproved.php, just universal, not depending on $Keyword from chooseforum.php )<br />Is there even an option to assign moderators to special forums ? NO<br />Without hacks you only can give read/write permissions,<br />and i would not take away read/write permissions from my moderator,<br />becasue it would be someone, i trust...<br />And in most boards moderators cooperate, help each other,<br />the most imprortant thing is to treat the posts ASAP<br />( ok, may be exept boards, ppl. use to make money, rather work then fun )<br /><br />Anyone could help me at least with (NA)'s ?<br /><br />thanks in advance<br />Burns<br />

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#222163 - 08/08/02 07:22 AM Re: (NA) at replies in threaded mode ? [Re: hougie]
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I have never used moderation myself so I've never seen the problem you are talking about. But my guess is that it's a bug that's causing the NA to not show up in threaded view. Replies don't get the right icon and the color of the username is also wrong on replies, so I would guess it's the same problem. I'll check up on that.<br /><br />Regarding more useful ways of approving posts, it has been requested that something should be done before and your ideas seem to be good. I'd vote for the second proposal, it seems to be very convenient. I'll put it on my todo-list, but since I'm not using moderation myself it won't get a high priority, so maybe someone else could give it a try?<br /><br />[]Is there even an option to assign moderators to special forums ? NO<hr /></blockquote><br /><br />I'm not sure I'm following you here... You can assign lots of moderators to each forum, so that they can approve posts, edit other peoples posts and so on.<br />What option is missing?
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#222164 - 08/08/02 09:17 AM Re: (NA) at replies in threaded mode ? [Re: c0bra]
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<blockquote><font class="small">posted by Gardener:</font><hr /> <br /></font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /><br />Is there even an option to assign moderators to special forums ? NO<hr /></blockquote><br /><br />I'm not sure I'm following you here... You can assign lots of moderators to each forum, so that they can approve posts, edit other peoples posts and so on.<br />What option is missing? <hr /></blockquote><br /><br />Or sorry, i just missed this option<br />( i was looking by forums management , not by users management )<br /><br />About anyone who could do it -<br />i'm afraid that so few ppl. are using moderation,<br />it's almost hopeless...<br />

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#222165 - 08/08/02 09:19 AM Re: (NA) at replies in threaded mode ? [Re: hougie]
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OK, I've found the bug that makes the N/A posts not being shown. It's any easy fix so you could do it yourself, just follow the instructions below.<br /><br />Find this line in showthreaded:<br /><pre><font class="small">code:</font><hr><br /> $tree[$aparent][$anumber]['Approved'] = $aaproved;<br /></pre><hr><br /><br />Change it to this:<br /><pre><font class="small">code:</font><hr><br /> $tree[$aparent][$anumber]['Approved'] = $aapproved;<br /></pre><hr><br /><br />Then open postlist.php and find this line:<br /><pre><font class="small">code:</font><hr><br /> $tree[$aparent][$anumber]['Approved'] = $aaproved;<br /></pre><hr><br /><br />And change it to this:<br /><pre><font class="small">code:</font><hr><br /> $tree[$aparent][$anumber]['Approved'] = $aapproved;<br /></pre><hr><br /><br />
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#222166 - 08/08/02 09:21 AM Re: (NA) at replies in threaded mode ? [Re: hougie]
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Guess there aren't that many, and judging by who cumbersome it seems to be to approve posts I guess less people are inclined to start using it. I really think it is a feature that should be more streamlined in future versions.
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#222167 - 08/08/02 09:41 AM Re: (NA) at replies in threaded mode ? [Re: c0bra]
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wow, all (NA)'s are displayed now, you squished this bug <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" /><br /><br />Now, if there would be (NA) in front of forums,<br />where are any unapproved posts inside,<br />it would be perfect already:<br />would not it just need one extra query somewhere before <br />forums are listed on the Main Index, B_Approved from w3t_Posts ?<br />Hm... probably more difficult would be to change the name of the forum displayed...<br />

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#222168 - 08/08/02 10:03 AM Re: (NA) at replies in threaded mode ? [Re: hougie]
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If you have Full New Post Tracking on you should be able to see the number of new N/A posts in each forum on the main forum index. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to work, another bug probably. I'm on it though. =]
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#222169 - 08/08/02 10:44 AM Re: (NA) at replies in threaded mode ? [Re: c0bra]
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yep,<br />the yellow bulb should be shown if there are NA posts<br />( i could replace it with a red one or alike,<br />to separate it from new posts bulb,<br />if only this query would work ... )

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#222170 - 08/08/02 11:02 AM Re: (NA) at replies in threaded mode ? [Re: hougie]
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OK, the "fast fix" would be to comment out<br />"if ( ($config['newcounter'] == 2 ) && ($Username) && ($boardfolder == "newposts.gif") ) {" around line 250 <img src="/forum/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" /><br />( and one another } below the block )<br /><br />But i hope you find a better solution...

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#222171 - 08/08/02 12:06 PM Re: (NA) at replies in threaded mode ? [Re: hougie]
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Yep, that would work, but it will add 2 extra queries on boards that wouldn't need them.<br /><br />I haven't started tracking this down yet, but I will soon.
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#222172 - 08/08/02 06:08 PM Re: (NA) at replies in threaded mode ? [Re: hougie]
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The best solution I could find without doing some heavy changes is to move the "}" at line 312 to line 275. This will move the N/A check outside the post tracking.<br /><br />At least this means that the post tracking queries don't have to be done on each board. But there will always be an extra query for every board with real moderation, but since this only applies to admins and mods of that board it should be such an impact on the database anyway.
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