The only thing about completed templates is that if you want thread ratings but not user ratings, your templates aren't gonna be compatible. Toggles for some things sound like a better solution in that if you don't want it, you just turn it off and it doesn't make it more difficult to edit the basic look of the template <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> Otherwise, you'd have to have an almost infinite number of templates available to cover the most basic of choices... moderators/no moderators, ratings/ no ratings, thread views/ no thread views, etc <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> <br /><br />I can make templates to look how I want them too, but not always the larger group of web site owners threads is beginning to attract <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />