How would I remove the border from around the Menu Bar?

hmmm... you can change the tableborders colors to the same as your background color or whichever class is covering that menu, or edit your templates for the same effect: ubbt_registerednav and ubbt_unregisterednav

Thanks Allen, <br /><br />I ended up manually setting the cellspacing/padding to 0 in the templates for the "surrounding" table.

Just a thought.<br /><br />Wouldn't it be easier to put the color/size/style of the table borders inside the style sheets instead of writing another table around each table?<br /><br />This would remove some code from the templates and give more control over the look and feel in the style sheets. <img src="/forum/images/icons/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <br /><br />That way people can pick different style and colors for specific tables.

Would make the css stylesheets and templates the same/ a little more complex, as you would have to put tables inside tables to keep all those td's from having borders, wouldn't you?

You can specify which sections that you would like not to have a border by using "border: hidden".<br /><br />I am going to try and play around with my templates and see what I can come up with.

Allen,<br /><br />I was able to remove that "extra" table that surrounds all the other tables in a few templates including ubbthreads.tmpl without removing the look of the pages or removing/adding any borders.<br /><br />Also I did not have to make any modifications to the stylesheets.<br /><br />Am I missing the "Grand Scheme" as to why that extra table is there?

Think it's there for a shadow/3d effect. The outer table could have a light shadow and inner with a lighter.<br /><br />I wondered the same thing myself though, if it's any consolation.

I would need to check out the css a bit more to give you a straight answer and not a guess <img src="/forum/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> I think the way it is done now is a bit more straightforward and looks the same in the most browsers... getting into more than the very basic css constructs for the templates starts removing a lot of users with older browsers from the equation.