The forum that is getting setup will be run by the same people that run the UBBDev site. Ted can correct me if I am wrong but this isn't actually an Infopop site, it's run by others. This will focus on hacks for both versions and I plan on exporting the current customizing forums and put import them into the new site.

No, I'm going to wait and see how things develop.<br />Anything I do will be done on my own Board at Amdragon.

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>David Campbell has been banned from infopop and ubbdev forums for his attitude and consistent posting of flames. Take his posts here for what it's worth. <p><hr></blockquote><p><br /><br />Ubb people. You guys can find time to come here and personally insult people and yet you don't answer nor address other serious issues people have raised... Such as your constant price increases and your heavy-handed censorship.<br /><br />It won't be long now before infopop start deleting posts and disallow ANY criticism. They will never change.<br /><br />

I don't speak for UBB™ or Infopop, but Ted does and he posted a nice FAQ here:<br /><br />http://www.wwwthreads.com/perl/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=feedback&Number=42358<br /><br />long before your post about them not answering questions I believe.<br /><br />No insult was intended for Mr. Campbell

> Reconsider the name...<br />There is ABSOLUTELY no way I'm calling any of my scripts "ubbthreads" []/testimages/icons/smile.gif[/]<br /><br /><br />seb<br />

UBBThreads is a strange name. You would think that they'd want a different name from their existant products because this move diversifies the product line. The name 'wwwthreads' does have problems with having too many w's, and being similar to wwwboard (ack!).<br /><br />I think they should call it W3Threads.<br />

<br />I call it w3t :-)<br /><br />If it contains UBB anywhere it's not going on my website :-p<br /><br /><br />Sebastien.

Face it guys, I think InfoPop has already made the decision and regardless of how many people don't like the name... it's going to be caled UBBThreads.

<br />Maybe so, but if they value money they will listen to their customers!<br /><br /><br />seb<br />

I'm with Eileen on how things turn out, but Scream is good enough to keep hosting my boards, and my decisions on what will be offered will be in part on what infopop wants and what I want and what Scream wants, since there is going to be a team going on, like it or not.<br /><br />We'll have several alternatives though, so don't feel left out in the cold, whether it be Eileen or me or whoever else is interested in setting something up.<br /><br />My suspicion is that Infopop will come through with this though, which is why I'm sort of waiting to see what happens. I really don't see much of a difference between what you have and what you'll be getting, but if there is... yeah, I'll figure out something. []/testimages/icons/wink.gif[/]<br /><br />

I'm glad someone piped up for UBB []/testimages/icons/laugh.gif[/]. Welcome aboard, or maybe it should be you telling us that.<br /><br />Regardless, greets.<br />

Let's hope so...<br /><br />

I'm afraid that is true as it may involve copyrights, trademarks and stuff like that which is already in place. However, reconsidering the decision -- if possible -- would make a very good first example of how this company is listening to the already established customer base of this fine product ;)<br /><br />My personal opinion: if UBB stands for "Ultimate Bulletin Board", then, "UBBThreads" would translate to "Ultimate Bulletin Board Threads" which doesn't make sense and has nothing to do with UBB as they are completely different products. Not only is this (IMHO) misleading but it has the potential to make some people jumpy (from what I've seen here and from some who used said software and shared their feelings in this matter with me).<br /><br />Now bussiness is bussines so if this rename thing is unavoidable from a legal standpoint, fine. As I said earlier, I will support Rick as much as I can, unless I come to the conclusion that w3t does not serve the purpose for which was created (or if you deny me access to the community -- whichever comes first).

Yes, I agree! But, I doubt that. Hope they prove me wrong...

They won't change their mind about the name. They have been promising their users a "UBBThreads" version with a SQL backend for years now and have never delivered. This is their delivery. They couldn't develop it for whatever reason themselves, so they bought someone else's and are renaming it.<br /><br />It's just business folks. Give them your credit card number and shut up - that's about all you are to them.

<blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr><p>We have never lost touch with our core customers, however, and if you look at our own support forums you will see a large, vibrant community.<p><hr></blockquote><br />Ted,<br />I'm curious--are you still censoring posts that are critical of UBB as well as censoring any mention of competing products on your forums (and, no, I'm not somebody you censored, just an observer)? How can you claim you have "never lost touch with our core customers" if you put duct tape over their mouths? When I was looking for forum software (over a year ago) I found this to be very disturbing and it was a major factor (along with technical inferiority of UBB) in writing off UBB as an option. Everywhere I looked (outside of the InfoPop site) there were tons of ex-UBB users who were unhappy with support, upgrades, pricing, etc.<br /><br />Rick,<br />Best wishes. I hope things turn out the way you expected. Sadly, I'm not very optimistic.<br /><br />P.S. I didn't get an email about this merger (sixpack isn't the only one). Maybe it was because I didn't renew my upgrade license when it expired recently, but I would have thought that everyone would have been emailed about something of this magnitude.

To answer my portion of this question. I used the email address from your customer information page in the licensed users area. It looks like many never changed their email address from when they originally ordered so this would explain why some of you didn't get the email.

My email address hasn't changed. Maybe a hiccup somewhere...

Hmm, possibly. I've got all of my bounces saved and didn't see one for your email address on record so I assumed it went through. At least it must have went through to somebody.

I am a new kid here on this block. I got my first W3T license on Oct. 9, 2001, 3 days b4 the announcement, and I just found out about the sale yesterday, so I am still trying to digest it.<br /><br />Has anyone put up an independant W3T board so we can talk freely about it? If so please let me know.<br /><br />I think 'talk freely' will be a thing of the past once this gets under infopoops control.<br /><br />--<br /><br />When the first word is censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, the first link is forged, and it chains us all forever.<br /><br />......