I agree on most people being attracted by the looks of vBulletin... thats one of the reasons I want templates, so that we can change the looks of our boards. After templates are fully implemented I believe designers will be able to come up with really interesting options. On this issue, I do not expect changes to be too big at all until the boards are fully template based because we will obviously want a consistent look throught the boards... I believe Scream is planning on doing it little by little, so it will take quite some time for the looks to really change, but templates should do it.<br /><br />On this article, yes, it seems quite old, though the copyright says 2001.