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#200964 - 07/11/02 06:45 PM perl or php
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which one will it be encrypted in cos more cgi could strain my server
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#200965 - 07/11/02 06:54 PM Re: perl or php
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seeing how ubb is perl, id say perl.
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#200966 - 07/11/02 07:00 PM Re: perl or php
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some of each... depends on what's logical for the task.
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#200967 - 07/11/02 07:18 PM Re: perl or php
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what brad said is what i thought
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#200968 - 07/11/02 07:26 PM Re: perl or php
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Like Allen said, each can do things differently. It depends.

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#200969 - 07/11/02 10:38 PM Re: perl or php
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In my opinion, I always believed that since the UBB is cgi, the portal should be cgi.
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#200970 - 07/12/02 01:32 PM Re: perl or php
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Most parts will be, it still depends on what's logical smile
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#200971 - 07/12/02 02:09 PM Re: perl or php
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I have mixed opinions on this myself since I am learning to love PHP but Brad had a good suggestion earlier about being able to create .cgi pages from within the CP and it seems to me that this would also allow us to use the styles and variables and of course recent visitors etc. I realize that this would increase the overall resources used but if a person is surfing through the external .cgi then they won't be on the summary or forum pages at the same time so it will still be single sessions.

I think the thing I would like the most as far as appearance and ease of design change would be to have the $TBT and $TBB available. Allen has done this with hiw PHP styles hack.
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#200972 - 07/12/02 03:00 PM Re: perl or php
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I think more than anything, ease of development/ server load/ etc would be the prime considerations. Simple things like styles can be written out into a vars file and read with either perl or php. Recent visitors can be done in perl or php, ubb handles both. And it all can be done from the cp in either php or perl... Where possible, things need to be written to a file and included that way, so the front page is not generated dynamically with each visit. I believe "latest threads" has a mode like that.
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#200973 - 07/12/02 07:42 PM Re: perl or php
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Well I'd like it to be as compaitiable as possible with the UBB, like changing settings in the CP.

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#200974 - 07/12/02 08:36 PM Re: perl or php
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by AllenAyres:
some of each... depends on what's logical for the task.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">why not have a Perl & a PHP version? i think that would be the most logical option. some ppl can't run PHP b/c of their hosts, etc.
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#200975 - 07/13/02 01:23 PM Re: perl or php
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That would make development twice as long, with two sets of bugs to track. It would be too difficult.
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#200976 - 07/13/02 01:58 PM Re: perl or php
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I agree, we need a goal and a plan. As quickly as the versions for UBB come out we may have a hard time keeping up otherwise.
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#200977 - 07/14/02 12:12 AM Re: perl or php
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Chances are it will use php as the "delivery" (think ubb accel) and perl as the backend, (think everything else). I am guessing its being discussed, but keeping server load down is a priority (or it should be).

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#200978 - 07/14/02 01:21 AM Re: perl or php
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Greg, are you part of the dev team?
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#200979 - 07/14/02 02:29 AM Re: perl or php
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Greg Hard:
Chances are it will use php as the "delivery" (think ubb accel) and perl as the backend, (think everything else). I am guessing its being discussed, but keeping server load down is a priority (or it should be).</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In other words, the same as the UBB with an accelarator on?

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#200980 - 07/14/02 07:45 AM Re: perl or php
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Dave2:

That would make development twice as long, with two sets of bugs to track. It would be too difficult.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">there could be two seperate dev teams and two seperate source trees, so yeah, there would be two seperate bug trackers also.
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#200981 - 07/14/02 12:12 PM Re: perl or php
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TheX:
Greg, are you part of the dev team?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Was that retorical? Not as of yet, no.
However, I do know the standards for a portal running off UBB's core files, and plan to assist in any manner i can.

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#200982 - 07/14/02 04:43 PM Re: perl or php
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Greg Hard:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by TheX:
Greg, are you part of the dev team?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Was that retorical? Not as of yet, no.
However, I do know the standards for a portal running off UBB's core files, and plan to assist in any manner i can.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The question was more of a "I hope he says yes" kind of thing. What will it take to make you part of the dev team?
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#200983 - 07/14/02 05:00 PM Re: perl or php
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